Roland Perry on 26 July 2004 at 21:17 said:-
> Mainly because every transaction when the card is checked is
> apparently
> likely to be logged back on a central computer. A bit like
> when you use
> your credit card. That sort of snooping^H^H^H logging doesn't happen
> today when people are asked for their driving licence as proof of ID.
That is a more understandable fit then, as it has been my experience and
tentative conclusions so far, that the cultural paradigms social groups work
within, with respect to their common concepts and use of 'privacy',
unsurprisingly apparently being a utilisation of an individual mechanism,
not only being relatively visible and routinized/satisficed actions in many
circumstances/situations, when you openly and fairly seek them, and hence
probably measurable, are perhaps more defining and identifiable elements
than other group norms. Those particular norms are certainly frequently
considered themselves to be particularly private and are probably also far
more difficult to change. I suppose shock tactics are possibly one route to
attempt change via, but that seems so hard there must be other alternatives.
Although considering historical organisational strategy issues that does
seem to be a generally documented causitive factor to organisational change.
Certainly, if the above supposition is correct, the entire issue of privacy
being seen as a power could then merely be a logical extension of a
resistance to change to the group paradigm, by utilising mechanisms
contained within the boundaries of the relevant groups conceptual norms of
privacy, leading to a muddying of the whole conception of privacy.
In that light the DP principles certainly seem to be an issue which
organisations need to ground very carefully within the organisational
culture if they are to avoid causing themselves ongoing difficulties,
although it may be rather difficult at times to measure that cultural norm
though. Still like organisational structure and many other matters, in the
complexities of life much is often left undone.
Ian W
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> In message <000d01c4734b$28a2dd00$c23468d5@com>, Ian Welton
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> >I am now puzzled why, with the photographic driving licence
> and the police
> >links to DVLA, the proposed National ID is being resisted.
>
> Mainly because every transaction when the card is checked is
> apparently
> likely to be logged back on a central computer. A bit like
> when you use
> your credit card. That sort of snooping^H^H^H logging doesn't happen
> today when people are asked for their driving licence as proof of ID.
> --
> Roland Perry
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