While at Acxiom (see previous email from me) we manage the DMA's data as well as being members of the DMA and I was responsible for our systems that managed data for the TPS, MPS, Baby MPS and FPS. But I don't believe there were plans for an EPS (or email preference service) with any supporting regulations. Has anybody heard any different? Geoff Scott Project Manager & Data Protection Officer ( +44 (0)191 243 6125 7 +44 (0)191 243 6101 + Bede House, All Saints Business Park, Newcastle Upon Tyne. NE1 2ES ü http://www.schin.ncl.ac.uk @ [log in to unmask] Disclaimer If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The information transmitted reflects the thoughts and opinions of the author and does not represent the thoughts or opinions of SCHIN Ltd and is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. -----Original Message----- From: Tim Trent [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 14 July 2004 10:28 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [data-protection] Just a thought As someone who is just starting up a dotcom business which requires massive promotion (nothing to do with Marketing Improvement, this is my "own thing") I have looked at these routes carefully. Now I am passionate about Permission Based Marketing, and that does help. You see people are already reporting businesses such as the one I will launch soon as spammers. And that destroys the ability to email from the same domain, and actually gets people like SPEWS (See the MI Links page for SPEWS and NANAE etc) to block the IP address of your dotcom. The techniques I will use are viral marketing, with rewards for member get member programmes, and a long loss leader period of no cost and then low cost membership (it is a membership service). I will promote by advertising, both paid advertising and to email groups where the moderator gives me permission. There are no permission based lists available for the end users who are my target market, and I know that direct mail promotions for this service will not work. Click thru banners I will not use, but I may consider click thru skyscrapers. This takes us back to classical marketing techniques embellished with as many current techniques as are available. Oh yes, I already prepared TICO's notification forms, so I will be about to pay my "business tax" of £35 before I can start processing data! Tim Trent - Consultant Direct: +44(0)1344 392644 Mobile:+44(0)7710 126618 email: [log in to unmask] Marketing Improvement Limited, Abbey House, Grenville Place, Bracknell, United Kingdom, RG12 1BP http://www.marketingimprovement.com This message is for the intended addressee's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mis-transmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorised to state them to be the views of any such entity. -----Original Message----- From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Duncan Smith Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 7:38 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [data-protection] Just a thought MPS is made statutory, PECR is amended to include corporate subscribers in the opt-in category, and the incredibly vague soft opt-in is repealed. In short, all unsolicited direct marketing is outlawed (and everyone has ticked the 'no third party' box) A bright, intelligent entrepreneur starts up a business; think Peter Durand (tin can), Frank Dyson (full suck vacuum), Alexander Baird (fax machine), knowing that if people just got to hear about his/her invention, they would not only 'just have to have one', but their lives would be genuinely improved. What options are available? Broadcast media - too expensive for the start up business? Viral - Anyone out there achieved this? Word-of-mouth - Never get the business off the ground? Hyde Park Corner - Looking more and more promising! Perhaps a special 7pm TV slot to showcase new products an services (wait - I now know what QVC is for!!) Oh, and don't try phoning any companies to see if they will stock your new product - they have all registered on Corporate TPS. Could our (over?) legislative response to the "insidious Viagra SPAM marketers" be inadvertently detrimental to the arrival of 'the good stuff' in our lives? Just a thought! 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