The ISEB obviously think it is closely connected with the DPA, as this very topic was one of the essay questions in the January exam! Sue -----Original Message----- From: Norman Pottinger [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 20 May 2004 15:57 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [data-protection] DP and School Concerts We are trying to reach a decision based on what laws legislation etc covers this activity. S36 of DPA exempts (amongst other things) parents videoing children, in whatever setting. It is therefore not relevant to the school, nursery whatever. All schools (especially nursery and pre school) have been instructed by their LEAs that they have to take precautions to protect Children. In the light of Climbie et al. It has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with DP. As DP professionals I am surprised at the number of you using the Act as an excuse not to do or to allow something. Norman Pottinger Head of Information Security Berkshire Health Informatics Service Tel: 0118 982 2809 Fax: 0118 982 2813 Mob: 07771 562849 email [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: CCSR [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 20 May 2004 16:26 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: DP and School Concerts iirc the reasoning behind this kind of ban _is_ rather closer to a DP concern. If there are children that are subject to custody disputes, then the identification of them through such a means might in principle increase their chances of being abducted. Myself, I would have thought that compared to the danger of being filmed/followed on the way to or from the school, the added danger was pretty minimal, but I can see a concern that is actually related to privacy and DP (rather than absurd ideas that paedophiles might be interested in the pictures). Ben Fairweather N Ben Fairweather PhD, Research Fellow | Tel: +44 116 207 8098 Centre for Computing and Social Responsibility | Centre: +44 116 250 6143 School of Computing, De Montfort University | Fax: +44 116 207 8159 The Gateway, LEICESTER, LE1 9BH, Great Britain | www.ccsr.cse.dmu.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - Editor, Journal of Information, Communication & Ethics in Society (ICES) www.troubador.co.uk/ices On Thu, 20 May 2004, Norman Pottinger wrote: > I'm sure we are all trying to be helpful and find a justification for > stopping filming under DPA, but of course this is not actually a decision > based on DPA at all. It stems from child protection and the fact that the > "father" at the back with a video camera may be a paedophile and no one is > prepared to take the risk. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This e-mail may contain proprietary and private information and is intended for the recipient(s) only. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by replying to this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient(s) disclosure, distribution, copying or printing of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. Information or opinions in this message that do not relate to the business of Parity shall be treated as neither given nor endorsed by it. Neither Parity nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses or other destructive elements. The message has been scanned for known viruses on leaving Parity but the recipient is strongly advised to check for the latest viruses on its receipt. [log in to unmask] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^