For information. http://www.cpsr.org internet law news latest bulletin provides a link:- http://www.bfd.bund.de/Presse/pm20041115b.pdf to the ARTICLE 29 Data Protection Working Party's opinion regarding the storage and retention of electronic communication services data. Opinion 9/2004. The Working Party, in its opinion adopted on 9th November 2004, concludes that "not only does the draft Framework Decision fail to cover those conditions, it expressly seeks to nullify them by not requiring definite grounds of suspicion and a reliable basis in fact in individual cases and providing for comprehensive data storage as precautionary measure in future legal proceedings against any users of electronic communications systems. The Working Party is of the opinion that the mandatory retention of all types of data on every use of telecommunication services for public order purposes, under the conditions provided in the draft Framework Decision, is not acceptable within the legal framework set in Article 8." Apologies to those for whom this is a cross posting. Ian W ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^