Yes, precisely the type of authority that needed to be quoted in the original request. That way the data controller is assisted in arriving at an informed judgement. Gerry. >-----Original Message----- >From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection >issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Heath, Mark >Sent: 11 November 2004 15:16 >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: [data-protection] Sharing information with Local >Council - what is personal data? > > >I thought S16 of the Local Government (Misc Provs) Act 1976 - >assuming the uni in some way arranges or facilitates the >letting of these properties....covered this (right of local >authorities to have data about properties) - if it is S16, or >is relied on - beware - failure to reply = criminal offence. > >There may also be some EH powers I am not familiar with, but >S16 would legitimately entitle the authority to have this. > >-------------------------------------- > >Mark R Heath >Solicitor to the Council >Legal & Democratic Services >Southampton City Council > >* 023 8083 2371 (Phone) >7 023 8083 2308 (Fax) >* [log in to unmask] > > >Please Note: - This E-mail is intended for the addressee only. >If you are not the intended recipient, please be aware that >the unauthorised use or disclosure of the information it >contains, or the unauthorised copying or re-transmission of >the e-mail are strictly prohibited. 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E-mails to and from >Southampton City Council may be monitored in accordance with the law. > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection >issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gerry Dane >Sent: 11 November 2004 15:04 >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: [data-protection] Sharing information with Local >Council - what is personal data? > > >That data (the address) coupled with other data which is in >the possession of likely to come into their possession of the >data controller. (eg electoral register) > >Gerry. > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues >>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Smith, Tony >>Sent: 11 November 2004 14:41 >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Re: [data-protection] Sharing information with Local >>Council - what is personal data? >> >> >>How can the fact that a property is available for students to rent be >>personal data? There is nothing in that information that >gives personal >>details about anyone. >> >>Tony >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues >>[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Gerry Dane >>Sent: 11 November 2004 14:36 >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Re: Sharing information with Local Council - what is >>personal data? >> >> >>1. It is personal data. >> >>2. As data controller you need the department to give you a better >>articulation of their request before making your judgement. (ask the >>department to quote the authority upon which they are basing it) >> >>3. That they don't recognise what they are requesting as 'personal >>data' is sufficient to give pause. >> >>Gerry. >> >>Mr.G.Dane >>University of Newcastle >>Newcastle upon Tyne >>NE1 7RU >>Email: [log in to unmask] >>------------------------------------------- >>The views expressed in this message are those of the >>sender and not necessarily those of the University. >> >> >> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues >>>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of >>Gwenan Owen >>>Sent: 11 November 2004 13:44 >>>To: [log in to unmask] >>>Subject: [data-protection] Sharing information with Local Council - >>>what is personal data? >>> >>> >>>I wonder if I may ask for your thoughts on the following >request which >>>has been received from our local Environmental Health department. >>> >>>What they are asking for is that the University supplies them with a >>>full list of those properties which are available for students to >>>rent, not the names of the landlords just the addresses. The purpose >>>being to ensure that properties are brought up to a safe standard for >multiple >>>occupation, and then noted as such on their particulars. >>> >>>My initial thought was "no way" this is personal data, we don't have >>>consent so we shouldn't share the information. This was my >>response to >>>the Council. However, they have now come back to me to say that they >>>don't believe it is a data protection matter as they are only asking >>>for addresses.... >>> >>>any thoughts from other list members? >>> >>>thanks >>>Gwenan >>>-- _____________________________________________________________ >_________ >>> >>>Gwenan Owen >>> >>>Rheolwr Cofnodion y Brifysgol/University Records Manager, Gwasanaeth >>>Llyfrgell, Archifau a Rheoli Cofnodion/ Library, Archives >and Records >>>Management Service Gwasanaethau Gwybodaeth/Information Services, >>>Prifysgol Cymru, Bangor/University of Wales, Bangor, Ffordd y >>>Coleg/College Road, Bangor, Gwynedd LL57 2DG, UK >>> >>>ffôn/tel: (01248) 38 2413 >>>ffacs/fax: (01248) 38 8194 >>> >>>[log in to unmask] >>>_____________________________________________________________ >_________ >>> >>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>> All archives of messages are stored permanently and are >>> available to the world wide web community at large at >>> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html >>> If you wish to leave this list please send the command >>> leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] >>> All user commands can be found at : - >>> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm >>> (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list >>>please) >>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>> >> >>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> All archives of messages are stored permanently and are >> available to the world wide web community at large at >> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html >> If you wish to leave this list please send the command >> leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] >> All user commands can be found at : - >> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm >> (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) >>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> >>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> All archives of messages are stored permanently and are >> available to the world wide web community at large at >> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html >> If you wish to leave this list please send the command >> leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] >> All user commands can be found at : - >> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm >> (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) >>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> > >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > All archives of messages are stored permanently and are > available to the world wide web community at large at > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html > If you wish to leave this list please send the command > leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] > All user commands can be found at : - > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm > (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list >please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > All archives of messages are stored permanently and are > available to the world wide web community at large at > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html > If you wish to leave this list please send the command > leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] > All user commands can be found at : - > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm > (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^