Better to implant the chip than rely on an ID card which can be mislaid.
Have to be careful about the location of the chip to try to minimise the
risk of it being cut off.....:-)
Donald
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Subject: Re: [data-protection] Fingerprinting schoolkids
Edwina With on 08 September 2004 at 12:34 said:-
> Why not save time later and bar code everyone at birth :-)
That is logical!
More in keeping with current trends would be to DNA and hold that data
on an ID card, that ID could then be used to provide access to
everything anybody might need to.
The need for the human intervention with its attendant errors is then
removed.
Ian W
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> Edwina Withe
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>
>
> Why not save time later and bar code everyone at birth :-)
>
> >>> Ian Welton <[log in to unmask]> 08/09/2004 11:44:07 >>>
> Rob Dawson on 08 September 2004 at 09:36 said:-
>
> > Children, of course, do tend to grow into adults and within a few
> > years, the govt will have a nice database on the adult population
> > including
>
> > fingerprints; initially collected to stop children being incorrectly
> > charged in school libraries. ID card anyone?
>
>
> Biometric computer security has a very real difficulty to overcome.
>
> Unfortunate when the purposes surrounding personal data are constantly
> eroded so much by the interests of the various social groups that data
> protection gets to the state that it cannot effectively function in
> protecting the data subject.
>
> Personally I can see no valid DP reasons why minimal biometric data
> could
> not appropriately be used in the given context; provided of course the
> correct information has been provided at a level of
> understanding equal
> to
> the data subjects, and, effective security then stops the minimal
> personal
> data necessary for the task from being used more widely.
>
> Of course, subsequent governmental/organisational action is always a
> difficulty in many DP matters, and so any computer programme holding
> Biometric data needs to be designed in such a way as to effectively
> preclude
> any such interference, and the DP principles would need to be dealt
> with in
> such a way as to still maintain the Principle one and two issues as
> explained to the data subject, or allow change only as allowed by the
> data
> subject within the legislative framework. I expect many with other
> viewpoints could well dispute that and consider it a real failing that
> the
> DP regime is not effective in providing the necessary protections for
> these
> matters anyway.
>
> A very sad situation arises when school kids are drawn into national
> political policy issues at tender ages; I would have thought an
> independent
> university would provide a more widely differing human environment
> appropriate to trial this sort of technology, one also able to
> properly
> evaluate the accuracy of any sales patter. I am also not aware of any
> police force which uses fingerprint biometric computer security
> mechanisms,
> I wonder why?
>
> Ah well, Friday cannot be far off. :-)
>
>
> Ian W
>
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