Charles
What a great collection of data but is it personal? ;-)
My point was that in your summary, but debate is enlightening. As you know
from a pragmatic viewpoint when dealing with DP compliant matters those
managing / administrating matters have to examine the data in context and
make personal judgements. That judgement may be right or wrong. Thats where
a matter may move to the courts if an aggreived individual has enough
tenacity.
David
Intrigued as to Egothor. I assume on speed read its a software search
facility. Is its scope web page header/content only?
.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Christacopoulos" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 2:02 AM
Subject: [data-protection] The full monty ... was Re: Email address is
personal data?
> davidwyatt wrote:
>
> >I accept that the then Commissioners guide expressed the view you
indicate.
> >But it was only a guide view albeit from the commissioner. Decisions will
be
> >made in court if controllers choose to challenge.
> >
> >David Wyatt
> >
> >
> Oh dear me. You can make me turn religious. And then I should be
> orthodox thingie midgie ... whatever it is.
>
> Let us just roll over and die because the courts might rule something or
> other. Do nothing is the best approach now, right?
>
> The courts, and some particular judges, have also ruled on many things
> and were discredited later on. Let us jail some young mothers to set an
> example for the rest of society or jail anyone who is Irish (Catholic)
> in case they have spoken to an IRA member or anyone who is a Muslim,
> OK? What is your point?. An email address does not identify a person?
> Well it does TOGETHER with other information the data controller MAY
> have or MAY obtain. That OTHER information on its own may not identify
> an individual either but when you put the whole thing together you get a
> profile of that individual. In some instances an email address is as
> good as a postal address, esp. like for the majority of the people on
> this list who use an employer's address.
>
> OK ... let me look in my crystal ball and see what is your past. (Being
> a peson of opolopoulopoulos origin, we have the oringinal Oracle, so I
> should know about Oracling). Please bear in mind that I am not trying
> too hard and putting events in time and place is a matter of just
> looking a bit deeper in the data that I may have or may come accross.
>
> You are or have been a DP manager at some city Union insurance company.
> Maybe you had something like a crest round your head (maybe crest co
> ltd) .You may be now involved with fire in a capital city. 192.com says
> that there are over 200 people whose name rhymes with yours (you don't
> think that I am going to pay to find your likely post code) and 42 with
> a medical record (I sincerely hope you are not one of them because then
> I would have sensitive data attached to your email address). Given you
> don't have a web page, and you neither have an email address like
> "floozie" (or is it floosie) you don't use your work email address on
> the internet and you are not of the nerdie disposition. So you are a
> good worker, you work long hours, you may also take some short holidays
> (else you would not have waited for a week or so for a response).
>
> Given your view of email addresses and understanding of their uniqueness
> I wonder if you are pictured here: (yeap the good looking one with the
> long hair)
> http://www.its-prof-again.co.uk/aboutdavid.htm (search fo wyatt to find
> the relevant text)
>
> So later on in life you joined the real world (unlike us types who live
> in ivory towers). So after the insurance business did you you become one
> of the persons posing at the top of this page (full monty girls, David
> dressed as a fireman)
> http://www.london-fire.gov.uk/about_this_site/copyright.asp
>
> Can we rest the case of email addresses now? I always thought that
> after Friday topics are not carried over.
>
> :-)
> Charles
>
>
>
> --
>
> Charles Christacopoulos, Management Information Officer,
> Planning & Information, University of Dundee, Dundee, DD1 4HN,
> Scotland, United Kingdom. Tel: 44(0)1382-344891. Fax: 44(0)1382-348845.
> http://www.somis.dundee.ac.uk/ :: egothor http://www.egothor.org/
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