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Graham

I can assure you as a private individual I have every sympathy with your
views on the European State or perhaps the current state of Europe and I can
see no indication that things are going to get better.

However, as a group we should be concentrating on the EU Directive on Data
Protection and the domestic DP Legislation without getting sucked too deeply
into the wider picture and trying to resolve all the ills of the world.
After all that is essentially our remit.

Does the UK Data Protection Legislation and attitude of the Legislators
measure up to the spirit of the Directive - I must confess or perhaps I
should say admit to serious reservations on this score.

I think DP is one area where we can actually learn something from Europe.
All the recent adverse UK DP headlines and case law are in my view
complicating what should be a relatively straightforward piece of
legislation .DP should not be used as 'escape hatch' when required.

Anyone agree?

Regards

Fred Foy

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Smith" <[log in to unmask]>
To: Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 11:44 AM
Subject: Changes to the justice system


> Fred Foy from DPCS Associates wrote on Saturday, March 27, 2004:
>
> > I must resist the implications of your leading question however,
> > I do believe our European data protection colleagues, the French,
> > would tell us that their system of justice (social order) tends
> > to put the onus onto the individual to prove innocence.
>
> Surely most people regard European harmonisation as a good thing? If it
were
> not, why did so many of them vote in a Government committed to abolishing
> the British system of justice in favour of the continental system?
>
> However, the tide is beginning to turn. British people are now starting to
> wakeup to what is happening. They are saying "Thirty years ago we voted to
> join a free trade system, a common market, not a European superstate."
>
> Many good things have come about as a direct result of working together
with
> our partners in Europe - data protection being one obvious example -
however
> the steady pace of integration now seems to have turned into a torrent of
> bureaucratic regulation that threatens to sweep away British culture,
> including our systems of government and justice that have evolved over
> hundreds of years.
>
> I fear we are turning into an electronic society where an increasingly
> powerful state holds all the cards. If the state no longer has to prove
> guilt 'beyond reasonable doubt' in order to take away a person's freedom,
> that will be a very sad day indeed.
>
> --
> Graham Smith
>
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