Ah, but that isn't totally the case. Mailshots are usually produced with a scanned signature, or with a signature sometimes created with a "signing machine". That signature is accessible to all who manipulate the documents on their way to products, and is often stored as "bill_signature.bmp" or something similar. The DVLA stores your signature electronically for your driving licence and displays it on it The Passport People do the same though I think do not display it -----Original Message----- From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Donald Henderson Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 8:47 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [data-protection] Query - Signature as Personal data Even pre-Durant, it's very unlikely that a the signature would have been part of an accessible record - unless someone was odd enough to file it under your personal identifier ! Donald Henderson Information Security Manager Perth & Kinross Council -----Original Message----- From: davidwyatt [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 17 February 2004 00:04 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [data-protection] Query - Signature as Personal data For observations / comment 1: Is a persons signature personal data ? Pre Durrant based on the DP Acts definition I would have argued yes.. 2: Post Durrant is it still personal data when collected and processed in the following context?. Your employer asks you to provide it for the first time as a data item for a 'contacts schedule' held as a page within a contract they are entering into with a third party service supplier? As a consequence your personal signature will then be in the possession of both your employer (arguably for a staff admin use) and the third party service supplier (DPA purpose unclear). Your employer is likely to have had a copy when you were first employed on your application form and on many other documents subsequently e.g. paper memos. Leaving aside DPA an Employers strict duty of confidence on employment records would have appeared to give its use by the employer's employees some legal protection. Given Durrant ruling does DPA apply at all to your signature as a datum and if not does either party have any defined security obligation at law to protect it from misuse? If so what law? e.g Anyone with any obligation to protect a signature from fraudulent use other than the individual themselves. Views? David Wyatt Just had this occured and trying to point out the correlation of signature to DPA compliance given it is still only another item of personal data. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The information in this email is confidential and is meant solely for the intended recipients. The information contained in this email may not be the views of Perth & Kinross Council. It is possible for email to be falsified and the sender cannot be held responsible for the integrity of the information contained in it. If you have received this email in error, any disclosure, copying, or distribution of the information contained in it is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please advise the sender immediately and delete this email. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^