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Tim

From a cost benefit view.
Switch the camera off.
Police not interested in civil disputes
The potential litigation bill makes buying a new vending machine cheaper.

David Wyatt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Turner" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [data-protection] New CCTV guidance from IC


> This may be a silly question. Suppose I am a small user - let's say I'm a
> school and I have little cameras trained on the drinks machine so that if
> one of the kids smashes into it, I'll know which one of them it was, and
can
> deal accordingly. Now I guess that would mean that my camera is not
covered
> by DP - after all, I can't move the cameras and all I intend to do with
the
> images is send them to the Constabulary so that Junior can thumb his nose
at
> the legal system.
>
> The new CCTV guidance says that large users, i.e. town centre cameras etc.
> are still covered, and still need signs. So does this mean that as I am
not
> covered, I don't need signs? And if this is right, and the cameras are
tiny
> and nobody notices them, am I conducting covert surveillance under RIPA?
Or
> am I just trying too hard?
>
> Tim Turner
> Data Protection Officer
> Wigan Council
>
> > ----------
> > From:         Graham
> > Hadfield[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Reply To:     [log in to unmask]
> > Sent:         05 February 2004 14:53
> > To:   [log in to unmask]
> > Subject:      Re: [data-protection] New CCTV guidance from IC
> >
> > >I would assume that crime prevention/prosecution of offenders will
still
> > stand i.e. if >someone is caught on a camera in a small shop in the
> > process
> > of shoplifting or even >more seriously someone holding a gun to a
> > shopkeeper and demanding the takings........I >assume that if they state
> > that they are recording surely it must have some merit in a >Court of
law.
> >
> > The guidance actually states that DPA no longer applies if recording is
> > merely for the purpose of handing over of recorded images to police to
> > investigate such incidents.
> >
> > >Nearly Friday..............
> > Yeh, and the great thing is I'm off tomorrow :-)
> >
> > Graham
> >
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