I agree with you. I see notification of processing purpose plus consent as
intrinsic to the process
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Donald Henderson
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 9:14 AM
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Subject: Re: [data-protection] Fingerprinting schoolkids
Aren't you forgetting that we have a responsibility to ensure that all eight
principles are applied properly ? In a case like this, we want to be making
sure that that the system and its information is secure, that the purpose of
holding the data is clearly defined and well understood, and that retention
/ destruction of the information is done timeously and properly.
Sometimes I think we focus too much on problems (and there are many !) and
stopping people doing things. Part of our jobs has to be finding ways of
getting things done.....
Donald
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Trent
Sent: 08 September 2004 08:48
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Subject: Re: [data-protection] Fingerprinting schoolkids
This is the same argument as "Those who have nothing to hide have nothing to
fear". It always "looks reasonable". I have never agreed with that
position. It is the argument I attack, not you, Donald.
To me it looks firmly as though the purpose of the processing was not made
clear (and if of primary age then the child is unlikely to understand the
implications of the processing anyway), and as though consent was absolutely
necessary for this form of processing.
Oh yes. As one of those with nothing to hide, and thus nothing to fear,
what *do* I fear?
The answer is any minor indiscretion that anyone could hold against me.
The bus I forgot to get a ticket on when I was 22; the paperclip I took form
the office and used on a private letter; the phone call I made on private
business; the *friends* I associate with ("are you now or have you ever been
a communist?"); the fact that I never went to Dorset that day, instead I was
miles away doing something else; the school library book I never returned,
and the fact that my fingerprint is now on a database somewhere as a
defaulter or possible thief; that someone has made a simple mistake, and I
am persecuted for the deeds of some other "Tim Trent"; etc
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Donald Henderson
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 8:33 AM
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Subject: Re: [data-protection] Fingerprinting schoolkids
[snip]
Was consent necessary ? Definitely debatable - lack of consent could be
taken to prejudice the education of the child (since they wouldn't be able
to get books out of the library) [/snip]
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