In message <[log in to unmask]>, "Cashmore, Stuart" <[log in to unmask]> writes >Why do they have to be based on either? They could well be a document in >their own right. Because both Passports and DLs are identity documents in their own right, and it would make no sense at all to have *three* different ID schemes in circulation. The new ID card could, for example, be an alternative to a passport when travelling within the EU, even if not accepted outside the EU. Or perhaps it could contain the biometric required by the USA, and the red passport then becomes the "Counterpart Passport", by analogy with the DL. Lots of interesting issues here. ps. I forgot to mention in my earlier email that Americans give a fingerprint when applying for a DL, and their Social Security Number is also required; although neither is evident on the face of the DL. -- Roland Perry ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^