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So I am right in my train of thought then Tim that the schoolboy who greeted
the postwoman with a part of his body could appeal his conviction as he was
in his house..............
D


        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Tim Trent [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
        Sent:   06 February 2004 09:52
        To:     [log in to unmask]
        Subject:        Re: New CCTV guidance from IC

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        Isn't it odd!  If you film me doing (as the US State of Georgia now
teaches
        in its schools instead of the word sex [oh, unless it means
"gender"])
        "Co-operative acts designed to procreate the species" inside my home
by the
        window in full public view, I am not doing something illegal and I
suspect
        you cannot be prosecuted for it as a sexual offence.  If you film me
in "an
        act of elimination" (I do not mean killing the idiot at M$ who makes
Outlook
        block attachments!) then it may well be an offence!

        Days like these I am SO glad we "just" look at DPA etc!

        -----Original Message-----
        From: C.B.Bayliss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Chris
        Bayliss
        Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 9:32 AM
        To: Tim Trent
        Cc: [log in to unmask]
        Subject: Re: New CCTV guidance from IC

        On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 08:59:05AM -0000, Tim Trent wrote:
        > A new revenue stream for www.dirtybookstore.com!  (oh please don't
click
        it.
        > I expect it exists!) Isn't private enterprise wonderful!!!!!!

        But wouldn't this count as voyeurism under new Sexual Offences Act
2003?
        Changing rooms would appear to be covered, and toilets are mentioned
        explicitly.

        >
        > -----Original Message-----
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        > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 8:55 AM
        > To: [log in to unmask]
        > Subject: Re: [data-protection] New CCTV guidance from IC
        >
        > The logical (and scary) extension to the CCTV advice is that if a
        > shopkeeper does not have to notify, does not have to have signs
and
        > therefore is not regulated in any way, could have fixed cameras in
        > changing rooms and toilet areas.
        >
        > The cameras are not focused on one individual (it's everyone who
uses
        > the changing room) and the shoppy might not give the tapes to
anyone
        > unless a theft takes place.  Whether they use it for another
        > (self-gratifying
        > perhaps) purpose, no-one will ever know because they don't have to
        > tell anyone the cameras are there.  If the tape is given to the
police
        > if/when a theft takes place, what can they say about where the
cameras are
        placed?
        > RIPA does't apply, human rights don't apply as the shop is not a
        > public body.
        >
        > Of course, if all shopkeepers have high morals, we need not worry.
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