I agree, Mary. The spirit of the the Act is for openness, not to try to find out a way not to disclose all the time. Brenda Scourfield Team Leader I.T. Division Pembrokeshire County Council County Hall Haverfordwest SA61 1 TP Tel 01437 775380 > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Liddell [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: 22 December 2004 11:15 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [data-protection] SAR - Employee Recs > > Our policy here is to allow the individual to inspect their personnel > file. If they want a copy of anything in it, we provide it at that time. > > While it's clear that unstructured personnel files are exempt from access, > we don't see any reason to irritate our employees unnecessarily. > > Mary F. Liddell > Data Protection and Information Officer > Brunel University > > > -----Original Message----- > From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Scourfield, Brenda > Sent: 22 December 2004 11:08 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [data-protection] SAR - Employee Recs > > > But what if they ask to see all their file and not just the contract. They > could just browse through it. > Also if the file is in chronological order one would the assume the > application form was first, then the references, then the contract etc > etc. > > Brenda Scourfield > Team Leader > I.T. Division > Pembrokeshire County Council > County Hall > Haverfordwest > SA61 1 TP > > Tel 01437 775380 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Donald Henderson [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > > Sent: 22 December 2004 10:42 > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: [data-protection] SAR - Employee Recs > > > > Because the file itself may not be structured - you might have to look > > through every one of the pages to find information about their contract > > if there was no section marked "contract of employment".... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Scourfield, Brenda > > Sent: 22 December 2004 08:59 > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: [data-protection] SAR - Employee Recs > > > > > > But if the personnel files are filed by name, a temp could find the > > file. If they are filed by pay number and the data subject supplies this > > number then the file could be located. If the files are all piled in a > > heap or thrown into a filing cabinet in any order a temp could not find > > the file and the data would not have to be supplied. Why shouldn't we > > disclose in the first two instances ? > > > > Brenda Scourfield > > Team Leader > > I.T. Division > > Pembrokeshire County Council > > County Hall > > Haverfordwest > > SA61 1 TP > > > > Tel 01437 775380 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Turner8 [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > > > Sent: 22 December 2004 08:42 > > > To: [log in to unmask] > > > Subject: Re: [data-protection] SAR - Employee Recs > > > > > > The policy here in MoD has always been to allow people access to their > > > > > files, even though there is no right through DPA (post-Durrant). > > > > > > However, if you do not allow people access to their files now there is > > > > > no reason to expect any change when FOI comes in. Under FOI there is a > > > > > specific exemption from all DPA principles for personnel matters. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Broom, Doreen" <[log in to unmask]> > > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:56 PM > > > Subject: [data-protection] SAR - Employee Recs > > > > > > > > > ***** This email was sent via the INTERNET ***** > > > > > > I have just read an article that we cannot see our own employee > > > records. I thought we could or is it only after we have left our > > > employment? Been doing this job for how long and didn't know. > > > > > > Also, anyone any thoughts on when FOI comes in - someone has asked me > > > if they can ask Personnel/Human Resources if they can have sight of > > > the re-grading procedures. I would have thought this was OK but there > > > > > seems to be some doubt in Personnel. 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