In message <[log in to unmask]>, at 16:30:35 on Tue, 9 Nov 2004, "Simon Howarth (WSL)" <[log in to unmask]> writes >I think there is some merit in the argument. I would be interested to see >how the French have found the system as they have been using this method for >some years. I first came across it when I bought something in a department >store in Paris in 1989, they swiped my card then gave me a machine to type >my PIN in. I have done the same on several occasions in France since. > >I wonder what their fraud levels are like? Anyone know? They plummeted, but mainly because they *simultaneously* introduced zero floor limits for most potentially dodgy transactions. So that was more of a factor than the C&P, imho. -- Roland Perry ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^