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Apologies for the inevitable cross-posting In late 1974, Bob Cobbing made a visual poem called A winter poem which he published as a Writers Forum item and which he sent as a Christmas card that year. (This was spoken of in more detail, at the last Writers Forum Workshop.) Over the years following, he made more and more winter poems as Xmas cards, sending them to friends and colleagues and publishing them. In some cases, the cards and publications were identical, in others not, so that the Xmas card did not have the imprint on it, but the image was apparently always the same. Sometimes he said what the ISBN was; other times he didn't. Sometimes the greetings were hand-written, sometimes copied as part of the card's manufacture... and so on. Often a particular copy would not say it was a winter poem. Consistency of that kind did not bother him greatly. Furthermore, not all of his winter poems came out at Xmas. And he made variation versions of some poems. Writers Forum is endeavouring to make these items - they are generally very fine - available again. And we want to do it as accurately as possible in terms of the information we provide; and as comprehensively as possible. With a poet as prolific as Cobbing, there is little chance that everything will be retrieved; nor would that necessarily be desirable. But this work seems to be rather important in itself and as a series spread over years, rather like his triptychs, and it is desirable to save as much of it as possible. We are, however, getting to the end of what we can deduce from what we have. Jennifer Cobbing has recently been very helpful in providing more; but in a serial endeavour like this where one knows there were items out of sequence one can never be sure there isn't more to be known... Perhaps you can help. It is hoped that there will be people reading this message who not only received or bought such poems but still have them. If so, could they get in touch? [log in to unmask] In some cases, you may be able to confirm or disprove something; in others you may add to the images we have. In *those cases, we might ask to have a scan or copy of the item; but you wouldn't be asked to give it up. Your help would be credited, if you wished. Ta -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .