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Subject: FW: (ACCESSIBUILT) John Rainey Park Gates
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 11:28:18 +0100
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Thread-Topic: (ACCESSIBUILT) John Rainey Park Gates
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From: "Howe, Madeleine" <[log in to unmask]>
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From: Howe, Madeleine=20
Sent: 08 September 2004 11:28
To: 'Accessibuilt list'
Subject: RE: (ACCESSIBUILT) John Rainey Park Gates


I attach details of Centrewire which has an excellent range of gates, stiles
etc and is used by a number of authorities including Bucks with great
success.  I would strongly recommend getting in touch with them as they have
a wealth of experience and I am sure would be most helpful.

Madeleine

Madeleine Howe
Local Coordinator
Buckinghamshire County Council
Aylesbury Vale Area Office
The Winslow Centre
Park Street
Winslow
BUCKS
MK18 3RB
Telephone 01296 383406


-----Original Message-----
From: Accessibuilt list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
Vin
Sent: 07 September 2004 20:29
To: Madeleine Howe
Subject: Re: (ACCESSIBUILT) John Rainey Park Gates


Hi,
I have to say that I think there comes a point when a situation becomes a
police matter rather than a design problem.

If you try to design an entrance to exclude motorbikes you are necessarily
going to exclude users of some mobility assistance vehicles, such as
scooters.

I have just come back from Pembrokeshire where they have tried the sort of
design that Dave is suggesting and, althoug my daughter was just able to get
through the barrier she found it very worrying and the whole walk was
spoiled because she was concerned about getting back through the barrier to
get home!

I totally agree with Dave that RADAR or any other key system is unacceptable
as it excludes anyone without a key, whether they usually carry one or not.

The Crosbie gate is at least a partial answer, in that it can give an
airlock-type double gate to deter horse riders, but motorbikes are just too
similar in size and shape to some mobility vehicles .  Someone suggested
that Crosbie gates are no longer being made, but if that is the case the
design is certainly available and the principal is easy enough to apply.

Vin

Vin West
Secretary, Arfon Access Group
Glyn Dwr
Llandwrog Uchaf
Caernarfon
Gwynedd
LL54 7RA

01286880761
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From: "Croft Consultants" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] (ACCESSIBUILT) John Rainey Park Gates


> Hi
> Try the attached, it works fairly well so long as the top is not too
narrow
> for larger people.
> if you use RADAR keys for a gate lock you are excluding the part of the
> population which does not have a key
>
> Dave Croft
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Rainey" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 5:23 PM
> Subject: [ACCESSIBUILT] (ACCESSIBUILT) John Rainey Park Gates
>
>
> > We are trying to find a solution to the problem of motorcyclists abusing
> > public parks by putting a barrier that will stop them entering whist
> > allowing disabled people, double buggies & scooters access. I thought
> > possibly a RADAR locking system incorporated into a gate. Has anyone
come
> > across this or have you a better solution than an "A" frame entrance
> > barrier?
> >
> > John
> >
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