[log in to unmask] type="cite">------ACB discussion List Information-------- This is an open discussion list for the academic and clinical community working in clinical biochemistry. Please note, archived messages are public and can be viewed via the internet. Views expressed are those of the individual and they are responsible for all message content.Dear Elliott, It is well known that a dog's urine can kill grass & "burn" a lawn very effectively, was that what the patient had in mind do you think? I don't know whether it's caused by the acidity, high osmolality, a specific constituent, or what. It would be interesting to know if the same aetiology would lead in an ulcer to debridement, antisepsis, or both. There are other of course ancient topical remedies, I recall a mention of honey in that context, it would sound like a nicer thing to use. Anyone got any genuine & relevant knowledge or expertise? Merry crimble, LesFrom: "Simpson, Elliott (MK) Top Grade Biochemist Laboratory Subject: A Case for Christmas I have just been phoned by a consultant dermatologist about the following case. It seems to me to have been designed for discussion during Christmas week, so I share it with the site hoping, as ever, to find a helpful response. The patient had a venous leg ulcer and venous dermatitis which was responding to conventional therapy (compression bandaging and topical steroids). In August, while on holiday in Cornwall, a nurse switch to a "medicated bandage" and the lady had an allergic reaction which made the dermatitis worse. On her returning home, she stopped her conventional therapy and, for reasons not totally clear to our medical staff, applied a bandage soaked in her dog's urine onto the ulcer for two days on two occasions. She noticed an immediate improvement and the ulcer is now healed and there is no dermatitis. The dermatologists would have expected the healing process to have stopped when the conventional treatment was stopped. They also would have expected the healing to have taken longer than this had conventional treatment not been stopped. The dog is said to be very old and was not on any medication. (We don't know much about the dog - breed, etc - but probably could find out, if that was thought to be useful.) The Dermatologist is interested to know if there any known healing compounds likely to be present and a specimen of the dog's urine is available for any colleagues who would like to try to find some. Wishing you all a Very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Elliott Simpson Deputy Clinical Director Clinical Support Services Directorate
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