Hi, I am trying to do a second level analysis with repeated measures per subject. The simplified version is: a group of 10 subjects, consisting of two subgroups of 5 subjects each, and 2 copes per subject (in reality I have 3 groups, 87 subjects and 7 copes). Copes were generated using a model with orthogonal regressors at first level. I want to apply an analysis with 2 repetitions per subjects (the two copes) and test whether cope1 distinguishes the two subgroups of 5 subjects better than cope 2. My design then is as follows: group EV1 EV2 EV3 EV4 ... EV12 subject 1, cope 1 1 1 0 1 0 0 subject 1, cope 2 1 0 1 1 0 0 subject 2, cope 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 subject 2, cope 2 1 0 1 0 1 0 ...... subject 9, cope 1 1 -1 0 0 0 0 subject 9, cope 2 1 0 -1 0 0 0 subject 10, cope 1 1 -1 0 0 0 1 subjects 10, cope 2 1 0 -1 0 0 1 Contrasts: 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 : first 5 subjects > last 5 subjects for cope 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 : the same for cope 2 1 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0: is the difference between the two subgroups greater for cope 1 than for cope 2? etcetera So far I am happy with my design. But I need to include one covariate for age and one for gender as well. The demeaned age EV (EV13) would be something like: 12 12 -7 -7 ... -11 -11 6 6 To avoid rank deficiency, I can remove EV12 (the EV of subject 10), but I am not sure whether this is allowed. The alternative I can think of is to go to 3rd level with diffcopes (cope1-cope2) as inputs. Perhaps someone has and idea how to include these covariates at second level? Thanks, Serge.