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Re: Allan Hall's comments about the lack of compilations of historical references to dyes, perhaps we are lucky in Scotland to have two easily available books that I know of about the use of dyes: Jean Fraser, 'Traditional Scottish Dyes' (lots on lichens) and Tess Darwin, 'The Scots Herbal', which includes dye plants. Both are for a general audience, rather than by antiquarians and therefore not compilations of historical references, but they are a good starting point for information on traditional plant dyes. I don't have them with me so I don't know if either mentions Bryonia as a source of dye. Althea -------------------- Dr. Althea Davies AHRB Research Centre for Environmental History University of Stirling Stirling FK9 4LA Scotland UK Tel: +44 (0)1786 466252 Fax: +44(0)1786 466521 E-mail: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> http://www.cehp.stir.ac.uk/ <http://www.cehp.stir.ac.uk/> -- The University of Stirling is a university established in Scotland by charter at Stirling, FK9 4LA. Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you may not disclose, copy or deliver this message to anyone and any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind.