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All of the jobs for 15k in the interactive job centre touch screen are under skilled labour - checked today - I think that to expect to work with an MA and chartered for this amount, and then go for jobs in which they say "salary negotiable" tells you a lot about where we stand: at the skilled labour end ! And, by the looks of it, things are getting worse (or, to put it another way, why work as "acting librarian"/fee staff/"casual freelance" etc waiting until management make up their minds (and proceed to give the good jobs to their Oxbridge chums) when you can earn more as a manager in other sectors (using the same skills these days). Emilce >From: "Sarah Bruch" <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask], Subject: Re: Looking for a job? >Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 15:50:15 +0000 > >You got offered £15k, that's the top of my scale.This was one of the things >that annoyed me with the fire-fighters, they were saying it's impossible to >live on such a small amount, but many librarians and the specialties within >information work have to. > >Incidently those of us out there with degrees pertinent to our jobs within >an NHS library should be on A & C 5 when Agenda for Change comes into >force. I'm currently trying to get hold of any job descriptions which would >help me with my case for being bumped up a grade (i'm currently A & C 4 on >just over £14k). I'm determined to get the higher grade but don't know if >the powers that be will see it the same way. > >Sarah > > >Sarah Bruch >Multidisciplinary Library >Prince Philip Hospital >Dafen >Llanelli >Carmarthenshire >SA14 8QF > >Tel/Fax: 01554 749301 > > >>> "E.S. Rees" <[log in to unmask]> 08-Jan-04 2:16:37 pm >>> >I'm really glad that the issue of LIS staff being demoted within the sytem >is at last being mentioned - so far these last 3 years NOBODY seemed to be >taken this demotion of LIS staff seriously (look at some jobs - Acting >librarian of a specialised medical library, appointed at AR1, in central >London - any receptionist makes more than 21k a year). > >A recent joke: applying for an indexer (specialised) job "to fit in with >your other academic duties" (not advertised in the CILIP supplement, that I >recall, which is usually taken to mean serious money). When I finally go to >the interview (the wait, the room I had to wait in, all was signalling >"oh-oh" to me, but decided to be "positive"). The fact that they didn't >answer my email regarding "salary negotiable" should have rung strong bells >- the top salary for this was no more than 15k, pro rata (remember what a >senior official said recently about the Ian Huntley case "what kind of >people you get for 15k ?"). > >Emilce Rees > > > >From: Sue Lawson <[log in to unmask]> > >Reply-To: Sue Lawson <[log in to unmask]> > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: Re: Looking for a job? > >Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 12:42:42 -0000 > > > >Laura wrote "However I'm feeling quite positive about a pilot job > >evaluation scheme > >we're involved in at the moment." > > > >After recent job evaluations in Manchester Library and Information >Service > >librarians (scale 4-6) no longer exist and are to be replaced by Library > >and Information Officers (scale 5). 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