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Quite. Generally pts assume that the clinicians they deal with, either 
conscious or unconcscious, are qualified or under supervised training. 
Nursing schools, med schools, physio schools or their relevant Trusts make 
this clear in their literature but also make it clear the pt has a right not 
to have their privacy invaded by anyone they don't want and that certainly 
includes students from school. I can well remember the days when x6 med 
students doing thier gynae attachment would PV a lady under anaesthetic 
without any permission at all. Legally that was common assault as is a gross 
invasion of privacy like a school student watching one's guts being operated 
on. I'm surprised the surgeon let this go onto BBC1! It's about respect 
innit?


>From: Dr Fleur Fisher <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: GP-UK <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Your Life in.........
>Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 08:23:20 -0000
>
>But what about patient consent for watching their operations?
>In th eward, work experience kids can be intrpoduced by the nurse, or can
>introduce themselves; no such luxury when anaesthetised!
>Ethically necessary I would have thought.Fleur Fisher
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Trefor Roscoe" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 5:14 PM
>Subject: Re: Your Life in.........
>
>
> > Ruffles Stephen (5M3) Portland Medical Practice wrote:
> > > Prob work experience?
> > > My wife has had problems at her trust with some consultants turning
> > > up with their teenage kids - with no prior arrangement - as "work
> > > experience", found a few in OPD clinics and 1 in theatre watching!!
> > >
> > > Steve Ruffles
> >
> > Tried to reply frm harrogate and sent to Paul only,
> >
> > 16 years olds who want to do medicine often are given teh chance to
> > spend time on the wards. My daughter is doing this later this year. All
> > organised by the school and the hospital admin
> >
> > Trefor
> > (In Harrogate)
> >
> >
> > << Sent using my I'm InTouch remote access service (www.imintouch.net)
> > >>
> >
> >

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