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On behalf of all the Aslib staff, it has been sad to see all the comments
displayed.

I am pleased to say that this isn't representative of everyone in the
profession: we have had a tremendous amount of support and there is
obviously a widespread desire for Aslib to continue its valuable
contribution to the profession.

Nicole Adamides
Aslib Training



>From: Stella Dextre Clarke <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
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>Subject: Re: Future of Aslib
>Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:19:15 -0000
>
>Hear Hear! Aslib has been going down the hill for the last 25 years or
>more, and it's no use weeping for the glory days of Belgrave Square.
>Maybe useful to buy their membership mailing list before it becomes too
>out of date? And CILIP/TFPL could approach the individuals who lead the
>more successful training courses, to add to their own portfolios? The
>journals have already gone to Emerald, so nothing to salve there. And as
>for the library collection - last time I visited the neglect was painful
>to behold. The once renowned collection of thesauri still had a few
>jewels, but who wants the reference works of the seventies and eighties?
>Only a few dedicated scholars.
>Stella
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of C.Oppenheim
>Sent: 15 December 2004 10:37
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Future of Aslib
>
>
>I agree with Ian;  perhaps the only thing worth having is the goodwill
>associated with the name Aslib, and I suspect it's value is not that
>great any more.
>
>Charles
>
>Professor Charles Oppenheim
>Department of Information Science
>Loughborough University
>Loughborough
>Leics LE11 3TU
>
>Tel 01509-223065
>Fax 01509-223053
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ian Johnson" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 10:22 AM
>Subject: Re: Future of Aslib
>
>
>The real issue is whether any prospective buyer would operate Aslib as a
>pure commercial entity like Tfpl, or try to continue as membership based
>association.  Aslib has masqueraded as a professional association for a
>long time, but there is little obvious evidence that it has represented
>the corporate bodies' interests in any significant and useful way in
>recent years.  As  a commercial entity, it has been 'selling off the
>family silver' for years, and has nothing left to sell other than its
>name and the business record of its training and consultancy activities,
>both of which have an unpredictable potential.  What they are worth is
>therefore debatable, and I'm not sure that I would want CILIP to invest
>in purchasing them rather than developing its own activities in the same
>fields.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of JACKIE FISHLEIGH
>Sent: 15 December 2004 10:00
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Future of Aslib
>
>
>I was amazed that a UK library membership group could go under as a
>direct result of the consequences of 9/11. Charles Oppenheim's
>explanation makes far more sense to me. I think we should be honest
>about the difficulties faced by Aslib because if these are not properly
>resolved what future can there be.
>
>Jackie Fishleigh
>Librarian
>Payne Hicks Beach
>10 New Square
>Lincoln's Inn
>WC2A 3QG
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Crawford, John
>Sent: 15 December 2004 09:49
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Future of Aslib
>
>
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals on behalf
>of Alan Pritchard
>         Sent: Wed 15/12/2004 08:50
>         To: [log in to unmask]
>         Cc:
>         Subject: Re: Future of Aslib
>
>
>
>         > I wonder whether CILIP would consider this an opportunity to
>discuss
>         > with Aslib the possible merger of the two organisations. There
>is almost
>         > complete overlap in subject interests, and it would seem
>better to have
>         > one strong organisation representing both individual and
>corporate
>         > members of the profession.
>         >
>         > Besides, a joint organisation might then end up with a library
>again!
>         >
>
>         I found that very sad. I did a summer work placement at Belgrave
>Square
>         when I was a student. Spent a lot of time reading old journals
>(ProcBSIB,
>         JDoc etc) But before I fully go into 'boring old fart
>reminiscing' mode, I
>         do have a more substantial point.
>
>         I just wonder if a single organisation consisting of both
>personal and
>         corporate members could actually work. Other than just having a
>few of the
>         latter as supporting members. There are enough conflicts of
>interests with
>         differing segments of personal members, but I could see much
>more
>         fundamental conflict between, say, the LA acting as the
>professional
>         regulator of special librarians and attempting to represent the
>interests
>         of the corporate employers of those librarians.
>
>         I may be out of date, but I am not aware of any major
>organisations which
>         operate on this model. BCS, IEE, IoD - personal members. CBI etc
>-
>         corporate members.
>
>         Best wishes
>         Alan Pritchard
>         The GLOBAL GAZETTEER(tm): the world on file
>         http://www.allm-geodata.com
>         Tel: +44 (0) 1202 417 477
>
>         NOTE my new email address: [log in to unmask]

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