On behalf of all the Aslib staff, it has been sad to see all the comments displayed. I am pleased to say that this isn't representative of everyone in the profession: we have had a tremendous amount of support and there is obviously a widespread desire for Aslib to continue its valuable contribution to the profession. Nicole Adamides Aslib Training >From: Stella Dextre Clarke <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: Chartered Library and Information Professionals ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Future of Aslib >Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:19:15 -0000 > >Hear Hear! Aslib has been going down the hill for the last 25 years or >more, and it's no use weeping for the glory days of Belgrave Square. >Maybe useful to buy their membership mailing list before it becomes too >out of date? And CILIP/TFPL could approach the individuals who lead the >more successful training courses, to add to their own portfolios? The >journals have already gone to Emerald, so nothing to salve there. And as >for the library collection - last time I visited the neglect was painful >to behold. The once renowned collection of thesauri still had a few >jewels, but who wants the reference works of the seventies and eighties? >Only a few dedicated scholars. >Stella > >***************************************************** >Stella Dextre Clarke >Information Consultant >Luke House, West Hendred, Wantage, Oxon, OX12 8RR, UK >Tel: 01235-833-298 >Fax: 01235-863-298 >[log in to unmask] >***************************************************** > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of C.Oppenheim >Sent: 15 December 2004 10:37 >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Future of Aslib > > >I agree with Ian; perhaps the only thing worth having is the goodwill >associated with the name Aslib, and I suspect it's value is not that >great any more. > >Charles > >Professor Charles Oppenheim >Department of Information Science >Loughborough University >Loughborough >Leics LE11 3TU > >Tel 01509-223065 >Fax 01509-223053 >e mail [log in to unmask] >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ian Johnson" <[log in to unmask]> >To: <[log in to unmask]> >Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 10:22 AM >Subject: Re: Future of Aslib > > >The real issue is whether any prospective buyer would operate Aslib as a >pure commercial entity like Tfpl, or try to continue as membership based >association. Aslib has masqueraded as a professional association for a >long time, but there is little obvious evidence that it has represented >the corporate bodies' interests in any significant and useful way in >recent years. As a commercial entity, it has been 'selling off the >family silver' for years, and has nothing left to sell other than its >name and the business record of its training and consultancy activities, >both of which have an unpredictable potential. What they are worth is >therefore debatable, and I'm not sure that I would want CILIP to invest >in purchasing them rather than developing its own activities in the same >fields. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of JACKIE FISHLEIGH >Sent: 15 December 2004 10:00 >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Future of Aslib > > >I was amazed that a UK library membership group could go under as a >direct result of the consequences of 9/11. Charles Oppenheim's >explanation makes far more sense to me. I think we should be honest >about the difficulties faced by Aslib because if these are not properly >resolved what future can there be. > >Jackie Fishleigh >Librarian >Payne Hicks Beach >10 New Square >Lincoln's Inn >WC2A 3QG > >-----Original Message----- >From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Crawford, John >Sent: 15 December 2004 09:49 >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Future of Aslib > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals on behalf >of Alan Pritchard > Sent: Wed 15/12/2004 08:50 > To: [log in to unmask] > Cc: > Subject: Re: Future of Aslib > > > > > I wonder whether CILIP would consider this an opportunity to >discuss > > with Aslib the possible merger of the two organisations. There >is almost > > complete overlap in subject interests, and it would seem >better to have > > one strong organisation representing both individual and >corporate > > members of the profession. > > > > Besides, a joint organisation might then end up with a library >again! > > > > I found that very sad. I did a summer work placement at Belgrave >Square > when I was a student. Spent a lot of time reading old journals >(ProcBSIB, > JDoc etc) But before I fully go into 'boring old fart >reminiscing' mode, I > do have a more substantial point. > > I just wonder if a single organisation consisting of both >personal and > corporate members could actually work. Other than just having a >few of the > latter as supporting members. There are enough conflicts of >interests with > differing segments of personal members, but I could see much >more > fundamental conflict between, say, the LA acting as the >professional > regulator of special librarians and attempting to represent the >interests > of the corporate employers of those librarians. > > I may be out of date, but I am not aware of any major >organisations which > operate on this model. BCS, IEE, IoD - personal members. CBI etc >- > corporate members. > > Best wishes > Alan Pritchard > The GLOBAL GAZETTEER(tm): the world on file > http://www.allm-geodata.com > Tel: +44 (0) 1202 417 477 > > NOTE my new email address: [log in to unmask] _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger