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Dear Lawrence Alas! I went to immense pains to avoid offending anyone when I knew what I wanted to say was delicate - after all, I effectively suggested that both Ian and youself were in fact expressing political views, and I don't suppose anyone likes having their literal meaning so blatantly ignored. But I needn't have worried, because I'd blown it in the first five words. I now see that this was bound to be taken as an infantile and patronising reply to you (to make this even more inevitable, I quoted your message at the foot of mine). The fact is, I intended no such thing - my first sentence was supposed to be addressed to anyone who had listened in on the forum correspondence but hadn't looked up the original review. My intention was not to reply to (let alone refute) your original remarks but to try and raise some other issues. After such a beginning I suppose nothing else that I said made any sense. Since you pick me up on it, can I also admit that the sentence "Similarly I really don't think it matters about the words '"meaning"', '"understanding"', and 'experience'" is nonsense as it stands. Oh well. best Michael