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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Hey, don't forget: There is Gregory's register - the mother of all letter-collections ... b.k. Am Mittwoch, 12.11.03 um 19:07 Uhr schrieb F. Thomas Luongo: > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and > culture > > Thank you to all who responded to my query about letter-collections. > The > comments and suggestions have all been very useful. And let me echo > previous comments on the high interest of this topic. I too would very > much like to participate in, or at least attend, conference sessions on > these matters. > > I'd also like to pick up on a question already posed by Donald > Uitvlugt. What about Augustine, Gregory, Jerome and other > "ancients"? Were MSS of their letters ever ordered in any particular > way? Or is organization by theme or recipient confined to "moderns"? > > Tom > > At 09:54 PM 11/10/2003 +0000, you wrote: >> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and >> culture >> >> To add to the discussion of the arrangement of letters in medieval >> letter >> collections, I have been studying 12th century letter collections for >> some >> time and the 3 principles I have come across have been: >> >> a) by recipient. I imagine this would rise out of the studying of the >> ars >> dictandi, where a lot of emphasis is laid on the status of the >> recipient. I >> seem to remember once seeing a MS of an ars dictandi followed by a >> collection of model letters arranged according to this principle >> (can't >> remember any details though). Once the prinicple had become common its >> influence could easily transfer to other types of collection >> Would be ideal if letters were intended as models for other writers, >> also if >> you were collecting somebody else's letters and/or letters from >> different >> sources as you wouldn't have to keep track of chronology or think >> about >> literary effect. I think the letters of William of Aebelholt are >> arranged in >> this way. >> >> b) in chronological order. Popular with 19th century editors, less so >> with >> medieval scribes. Would be most likely to happen if letters were >> immediately >> copied into registrum by author or his scribe. The letters of >> Nicholas of >> Clairvaux are arranged according to this principle, though he did >> publish >> them himself. >> >> c) thematic order. The letters of Peter of Blois and Arnulf of >> Lisieux are >> arranged so that letters contrast with one another. E.g. in Peter a >> letter >> trying to protect a young girl from being forced into a convent is >> followed >> by a letter praising the same girl for wanting to take the vow! In >> Arnulf a >> letter describing a virtuous young man is followed by a letter >> describing >> his opposite. This, as far as I know, only happens when authors >> arrange >> their own letters. >> >> Hope this is helpful, >> >> Lena Wahlgren- Smith >> >> ********************************************************************** >> To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME >> to: [log in to unmask] >> To send a message to the list, address it to: >> [log in to unmask] >> To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion >> to: [log in to unmask] >> In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: >> [log in to unmask] >> For further information, visit our web site: >> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html > > F. Thomas Luongo > Assistant Professor > Department of History > Tulane University > New Orleans, LA 70118 > [log in to unmask] > (504) 862-8620 > > ********************************************************************** > To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME > to: [log in to unmask] > To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] > To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion > to: [log in to unmask] > In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] > For further information, visit our web site: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html > ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html