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I agree. With a race there must be a winner and a loser. However, with humanity, there is a good possibility that we could learn from each other. Also, how do you go back in time? Science shows us that all humanity came out from Africa. I think that the main link between racism and disability is essentially phobic in orgin, therefore both the creation of disability and racism come from tribal mental ill health. Just some thoughts, Keith On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:16:29 -0400 , Shelley Lynn Tremain <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >Good morning, > >I find the theme/title of this upcoming forum very unfortunate, for it >perpetuates, and indeed promotes, the notion that there are such things as >"races," a notion that is both scientifically unfounded and morally >unsavoury. (The term "ethnic" has the tendency to have similar racist >implications.) > >Incidentally, the term "race equality" (which implies that there are "races" >of which there could be equality) parallels the term "disability equality" >(which should be recognized to imply that there are such things as >"disabilities" of which there could be equality-equality with what? >abilities...? These "disabilities" are of course "properties" of >individuals. Interestingly, the latter term (i.e. disability equality) is >most frequently used by "social model" theorists. When social model >theorists use this term they violate their own declaration that disability >has nothing to do with individuals, but rather is a product of society. > >I would argue that social model and other disability theorists/activists who >use the term "disability equality" (e.g., "disability equality training") >need to give more thought to what they are recommending when they use >certain terminology. And I would definitely argue that the Joseph Rowntree >Foundation should think more carefully about the assumptions embedded in the >language that it uses. > >Best regards, >Shelley Lynn Tremain > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mark Priestley" <[log in to unmask]> >To: <[log in to unmask]> >Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 10:30 AM >Subject: FW: Race equality and disability: Have your say! > > >Please reply to Jenni Laycock [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >Subject: Race equality and disability: Have your say! > >The Joseph Rowntree Foundation is shortly due to open a discussion forum >on its website about messages from research on race equality and >disability. The forum will be free and open to all who have an >interest, whether professional or personal, in issues of race equality >and disability. We would like to invite as many people as possible to >the forum and would be grateful for anything you could do to inform >members of your organisation or other contacts who would be interested. >Our discussion forum will provide a safe space for contributors to find >out more about current research, share their own experiences and >generate ideas about how to address the discrimination and barriers >faced by black and minority ethnic disabled people and their families. >It is scheduled to coincide with two events in London and Birmingham and >will allow people attending the events to continue their discussions and >networking, whilst enabling others to join in the debates. For more >details about the events, please contact Tracey Bignall at the Race >Equality Unit ([log in to unmask]). > >In the meantime, if you would like further details about the Joseph >Rowntree Foundation's work, please visit our website (www.jrf.org.uk) or >if you want to know more about the discussion forum, please contact me. > >Best wishes, >Jenni Laycock Publications Officer >Telephone: 01904 615927 >Fax: 01904 615922 >E-mail: [log in to unmask] >www.jrf.org.uk > >________________End of message______________________ > >Archives and tools for the Disability-Research Discussion List >are now located at: > >www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/disability-research.html > >You can JOIN or LEAVE the list from this web page. > >________________End of message______________________ > >Archives and tools for the Disability-Research Discussion List >are now located at: > >www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/disability-research.html > >You can JOIN or LEAVE the list from this web page. > -- War makes people ill. ___________________________________________________ Which British golfer became the youngest ever to play in the Ryder Cup when he did so in 1977? Find out at postmaster.co.uk http://www.postmaster.co.uk/cgi-bin/meme/quiz.pl?id=225 ________________End of message______________________ Archives and tools for the Disability-Research Discussion List are now located at: www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/disability-research.html You can JOIN or LEAVE the list from this web page.