medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Dear Cecilia, I hope that your summer is going well. As usual, too many research projects are afoot here, complicated by the endless distractions of home ownership. I have finally located the Achan (Achor) references from James of Vitry's letters on the Fifth Crusade. The citations are from the first edition by R. B. C. Huygens. They are in reference to the retention of loot and sinfulness of the army after the capture of Damietta and the letters were sent to parties organizing the crusade in Europe (potentially used by crusade preachers and thus a wider audience). The ease of the reference could be taken as an indication of its commonplace nature. Certainly Louis must have had the problems of the previous expedition in mind when planning his own assault upon Damietta. Anyway, for what it is worth, here they are. Letter 6, p. 127 and Letter 7, pp. 134-5. I suspect that J's compatriot, Oliver of Paderborn used similar imagery in his Historia Damiatina, which was widely disseminated almost immediately after the denouement of the Fifth Crusade (partly b/c O and J were involved in preparations for Frederick II's delayed crusade). When I come across those specific references, I will send them along. There is also an interesting article "Application of Theology to Current Affairs: Memorial Sermons on the Dead of Mansurah and on Innocent IV," P. Cole, D. L. d'Avray and J. Riley-Smith in _Modern Questions about Medieval Sermons_, ed. N. Beriou and D. L. d'Avray, (Centro Italiano di Studi sull'Alto Medioevo, Spoleto, 1994) pp. 217-46. It deals with sermons on the disaster at Mansurah, preached by Odo of Chateauroux, perhaps while Louis was still in the East. Tons of OT imagery in these! Sincerely, Jessalynn ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html