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Another issue that needs consideration is more pragmatic. We can agree that most disabled persons are poor(?) if your material needs are dependent of acting the 'oppressed role' regardless of your awareness of it. material needs must come 1st, for survival. The other side of the coin is that if material needs are met by the way things are; and the material needs of those who are "perceived to act out" are not, why take the risk? Maria ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Supple" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:19 AM Subject: Re: personal tragedy on large > Dear Glen and others. I agree, I think the key is to let people know they > have a choice. I suspect many who are not in academia or involved with > activism may not know about perspectives other than the medical one. Sarah. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Smith, Glenn" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:05 PM > Subject: Re: personal tragedy on large > > > This question goes to the core of many aspects of identity and oppresion -if > someone does not recognise they are being opressed are they opressed ? > ...and should they be helped to change their view - after all some people > who are part of a 'group' seemingly oppressed often benefit from that > oppression because their life and personality is suited to seeing the world > like that or seeing the world from a different angle may be psychologically > as damaging as being understood as an individual with a biomedical problem > devoid of social context. > > >>From my own personal thoughts, letting people make up their own minds by > pointing them in the direction of good, engaging and challenging reading > material about understanding disability/chronic illness as contextual > experiences that are subject to the usual > social/cultural/historical/geographical pressures is the best way to > address this dilemma. If this material enlightens them about > experiences/reactions/problems in their life they could make no sense > through a medical lense of disability understanding, then ten to one they > will begin to understand their life with a disability as being socially > defined too. > > Aftter that they can find their own balance between understanding their life > as biomedically and socially defined. Having both knowledge bases gives a > great deal of empowerment in dealing with their own sense of self and the > reactions of others etc - self education is the key i would say... > > All the Best > Glenn > > Dr Glenn Smith, > Research Fellow, > London. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wolfgang Mizelli > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: 13/06/03 10:57 > Subject: personal tragedy on large > > Dear Listmembers, > > I am the chairperson of the national independent living movement in > Austria. > Situation there is like everywhereelse: > oppression, paternalism, social exclusion and stuff like that. We have > to go > a long way to fight for our rights so. > Part of the oppression is the use of the medical model of disability, > and it > is more the model of personal tragedy, that' s in use, even by disabled > people themselves. Anyone an idea about how to deal with disabled > persons, > who beleave, their impairment and disability are a personal tragedy. > Anyone > experience? > > Regards > > Wolfgang Mizelli > > ________________End of message______________________ > > Archives and tools for the Disability-Research Discussion List > are now located at: > > www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/disability-research.html > > You can JOIN or LEAVE the list from this web page. > > ________________End of message______________________ > > Archives and tools for the Disability-Research Discussion List > are now located at: > > www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/disability-research.html > > You can JOIN or LEAVE the list from this web page. > > ________________End of message______________________ > > Archives and tools for the Disability-Research Discussion List > are now located at: > > www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/disability-research.html > > You can JOIN or LEAVE the list from this web page. > > ________________End of message______________________ Archives and tools for the Disability-Research Discussion List are now located at: www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/disability-research.html You can JOIN or LEAVE the list from this web page.