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Will do Audrey. Best Gerald -----Original Message----- From: Audrey Vollans <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> Date: 04 April 2003 12:11 Subject: Re: Challenging Beliefs >Gerald I would be interested in hearing more although Iaccept te rest of the >list may not be, perhaps you could mail me off list at >[log in to unmask] >??? > >Audrey > > > > >>===== Original Message From Discussion on theoretical and research issues in >counselling psychology <[log in to unmask]> ===== >>Hello Pat >>Totally agree with you about organized religions, however as a medium I've >>glimpsed other realms. Nothing lke the organized religions would have us >>believe though. >>Best >>Gerald >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> >>Date: 03 April 2003 13:19 >>Subject: Re: Challenging Beliefs >> >> >>>Organized religion of any kind just doesn't do it for me no matter what >>they >>>promise. I simply am not a believer when you leave this earth that's it. >>>That's why I am on an organ donor list. I forsee nothing after this. Rules >>>of religion to me are man made laws put together by groups to control the >>>masses and then of course as I said before voila (hate the french) wars. >>>Pat >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Rennie, Steve [HES]" <[log in to unmask]> >>>To: <[log in to unmask]> >>>Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 7:06 AM >>>Subject: Re: Challenging Beliefs >>> >>> >>>> Not just suicide bombers Pat. The Koran is very specific about what >>awaits >>>Muslim warriors who fall in battle when they get to paradise. There is a >>lot >>>about dusky doe eyed virgins and even more about the various exotic fruits >>>that will form their diet, the fountains that will play and the sherberts >>>they will drink. The whole is rather more vividly realised than the >>>Christian version and may be interpreted by the terminally cynical as good >>>early marketing. There is a nice contrast to be made with the Norse version >>>of transition to Asgard, where the women have a somewhat more interesting >>>set of roles. It does make you wonder just what attracted early Christians >>>to the harp playing while sitting on clouds images. >>>> >>>> Stephen Rennie >>>> >>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>> > From: [log in to unmask] [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] >>>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:34 PM >>>> > To: [log in to unmask] >>>> > Subject: Re: Challenging Beliefs >>>> > >>>> > Just to add a little levity I hope there is enough to go around >>>> > Pat >>>> > >>>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>>> > From: Pamela Harper <mailto:[log in to unmask]> >>>> > To: [log in to unmask] >><mailto:[log in to unmask]> >>>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 6:58 AM >>>> > Subject: Re: Challenging Beliefs >>>> > >>>> > Hello Audery >>>> > >>>> > It is interesting you talk about suicide bombers in connection >>>with spirituality. Apparently, I did not hear it my self I was just told, >>>Sadam is promising volunteer suicide bombers that when they die there will >>>be six vestile virgins waiting for them on the other side. With an offer >>>like that how can any virile young man refuse. >>>> > >>>> > Pamela and power >>>> > >>>> > >Totalise - the Users ISP >---------------------- >To become a member and a shareholder >visit http://www.totalise.net