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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture And don't forget the classic spider story involving Robert the Bruce watching the spider in the cave and then defeating the English. I am not sure of the first source for this, but indicates the tenacity and 'never say die' attitude of spiders ... As far as I'm aware the date this was supposed to have happened has never pinned down (there is a date range of 10 or so years during Robert's life), so is this a secular motif and does it appear elsewhere? Chris Daniell ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html