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It is interesting to see the difference in perceptions between the geography of the Old and New Testaments. If it was the New Testament lands of Palestine which were being ripped apart there would be an outcry from the religious community in the West. Although having said this it does not seem to apply to the plight of the Palestinian people. I wonder also is this an illustration of the shallowness of much of what passes for Western Christianity (prayer breakfasts every morning). People do not seem to care what is happening in the Old Testament world at all - despite this being the possible site of the Garden of Eden. Also interesting is the different versions of God which are being prayed to. I don't really think the God alluded to by Blair and Bush would approve of His children (in particular "school bully") wrecking His garden. Rob -----Original Message----- From: Andy Herod [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 28 March 2003 20:23 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Iraq War Quiz] Yes, it does seem as if the religious right's position in this is very much tied up in a martyr complex that is manifested in so many other things --the media is/ are all liberal controlled, the most persecuted people in the western world today are white, heterosexual, male Christians, etc. There is very much a siege mentality, it seems to me, w/ a lot of these folks --perhaps this is the unintended but logical outcome of some of the identity politics of the past two decades, where everyone's "positionality" became seen as just differences. The right seems to have used the left's discourse about difference to position itself as just another oppressed group. Any thoughts anyone? A Jeff Boggs wrote: > This sounds about right for the flag waving jesus freaks. I grew up > in the Bible-Belt and while I find lots of this disturbing I don't > find it anything new. In your personal interaction with the student > have you noted what I suspect are his paranoid martyr complex creeping > through the vitriol - 'Oh we are the lamb of Christ and being > persecuted by the big socialist state apparatus'? > > Unfortunately these loons vote, too. But given that the US electoral > system is set up in essentially a two-party dictatorship that reduces > most issues to a binary decision, your student's black and white > thinking serves him well. > > Thank the stars I live in Los Angeles. > > rant off > jeff > > At 09:54 AM 3/28/03 -0500, Andy Herod wrote: -- The University of Stirling is a university established in Scotland by charter at Stirling, FK9 4LA. Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you may not disclose, copy or deliver this message to anyone and any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of the University of Stirling shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it.