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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Thanks, Christopher, for all the information (map of the diocese of Chartres, Merlet etc. etc.) Thanks again for your explanations about urban development in Chartres. For clarifying the situation of the city walls, this map from R. Sprandel, Ivo..., may help (I hope, the link works): http://www.abaelard.de/walls.jpg Sorry for not having given the reference about Peter of Celle. It's from an old necrology, first edited by J. Mabillon, Analecta 2, p. 557, reedited somewhere in Bouquet, Recueil des historiens (tome ??). Tangentially, I reached Chartres and the activities of Peter of Celle, by working on a short biography, part of an article about Peter of Celle and his relationship (means painful distance) to his former teacher Peter Abelard (and a second article about his quarrels with Heloise, abbess of the Paraclete). As there are some (minor) differences to your own short biography of Peter, I give the reference here: http://www.abaelard.de/abaelard/070306petruscellensis.htm > calling these walls Peter's work is stretching things a bit, it seems to me. Bishop Peter was a very old and sick man then and probably very handicapped (he suffered severely from gout and arthritis), but at least, the tradition told that his activities for Chartres (he solved a wine ban of the count, too) let the affected people of Chartres kiss the cheeks of his dead body during his burial ceremony... (ref. see above) But this may be a hagiographic overstatement. Otherwise, my knowledge about Chartres is very rudimentary (to my regret) ... Yours, Werner ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html