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i have just looked through this article and am, at the moment, too tired and dispirited to be bothered to respond. not too long ago, a posting like this would have caused an exciting little flurry of exchanges. none of them changed the world, but at least we had a chance to sharpen our faculties on something substantive. i have spent quite a bit of time in schools recently; talking to pupils and teachers about the issues touched on (danced over?) in this article. there are some very profound issues at stake here, and it seems to me that we may be seeing the first really concentrated conflict between the pre and post jenkin report paradigms breaking out. im sure that many people on this list have stronger views than mine on this issue, and are better positioned to make the arguments either way. i hope that some of those individuals will start posting in the wake of this piece. the innovation in science education being considered here is nothing less than an attempt to redefine (or possibly clarify?) the relationship between science as a set of corporate practices and its audiences. (i use the words corporate and audience in their broadest possible sense - look them up if you're not sure). this is not some trivial tinkering with the system, and in a national curriculum driven environment may have some profound consequences. what do we think about this? are we surprised? delighted? depressed? i would really like to hear from the list on this one. ---------------------------------------- Ben Johnson Graphic Science Faculty of Applied Sciences University of the West of England Coldharbour Lane Bristol BS16 1QY E-mail: [log in to unmask] Phone +44 (0)117 344 3756 Mobile 07813 580 397 http://www.uwe.ac.uk/fas/graphicscience ********************************************************************** 1. To suspend yourself from the list, whilst on leave, for example, send an email to [log in to unmask] with the following message: set psci-com nomail 2. To resume email from the list, send the following message: set psci-com mail 3. To leave psci-com, send an email to [log in to unmask] with the message: leave psci-com 4. Further information about the psci-com discussion list, including list archive, can be found at the list web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/psci-com.html 5. The psci-com gateway to internet resources on science communication and science and society can be found at http://psci-com.org.uk **********************************************************************