Politics are like perversions: one's own are endlessly fascinating, but those of others are extremely tedious. In order to set an example (which I have no hopes of anyone else following) of keeping discussion here focused on poetry, I must refrain from writing a long solemn lecture deploring the particular things I'm personally pissed off about. But I may within this constraint contribute a few comments on political poetry. Please note that nothing should be inferred from the following about my own political views, which are different from what you probably think they are. It isn't often noticed that the successful political poetry of the past is staunchly conservative. Theocritus praised Ptolemy, the Roman Augustans lauded the Emperor, and the only explicitly political message in Shakespeare's plays is that trying to overthrow the established order is villainy. Even Homer's Thersites, the first political dissident in literature (cf. Iliad I,) is presented unsympathetically. And perhaps the finest political poem in English, Marvell's Horatian Ode on Cromwell, seems poised between whether monarchy or dictatorship is the best system. Maybe poets of the past felt that politics weren't really very important, so they might as well adopt whichever politics are expedient for their career. I think such indifference can be healthy. I recall reading some correspondence between T. S. Eliot and Hugh MacDiarmid, which was quite cordial and dealt with Eliot's efforts to publish MacDiarmid's work. It's rather difficult to image a monarchist and an intransigent Communist having such a relationship today. Presumably they thought the poetry was more important than the politics. -------------------------------------------------- I think the reason why there's no avant-garde is that there's no garde any more. Literary revolutionaries now are the ones who wear sandals instead of loafers in the English Department coffee room. There's something pathetic about a bohemian with a fellowship. Incidentally the Merriam Webster College Dictionary, which is considered standard at least for US usage, says that avant-garde can be an adjective and gives "avant-garde writers" as an example. -------------------------------------------------- Yesterday by accident I came across one of the few recent poetry books that seems worthy of my attention: Looking for Poetry: Poems by Carlos Drummond de Andrade and Rafael Alberti / Songs from the Quechua, translated by Mark Strand (Knopf, New York, 2002.) I've only just leafed through the poems by de Andrade and Alberti, whose work I wasn't familiar with, but they look like they'll repay further study. But I couldn't stop reading all the Songs from the Quechua, which I thought were strange and wonderful. The translator is working here from Spanish versions of the originals made by historians and anthropologists, but one gets the impression that this is the sort of poetry that translates well, since the bold imagery is in itself so striking. -------------------------------------------------- For those who want the short version, the main point of the review referred to by David Bircumshaw is summed up by its statement, drawn from Andrew Jordan, that "the middle-classes have created a hegemony in the poetry world, while sounding off about tolerance and inclusion..." By the way, has anyone else heard that noted religious leader John Paul II is a member of the Roman Catholic church? Rebecca Seiferle's comments should be footnoted to record that the reviewer's observations of Ruth Padel's "sexiness' were an extension of the remark quoted in the review's first sentence that "Ruth Padel is ‘the sexiest voice in British poetry,'" attributed to Maggie O’Farrell. -------------------------------------------------- I'm glad that my previous note on Sappho generated a few comments on her, though no one answered my question or even argued about whether it was a legitimate one. I'd recommend that those who are interested in further reading get the 1965 paperback Anchor/Doubleday edition by Willis Barnstone, whose translations seem to me to catch Sappho's combination of elegance and naturalness better than others I've seen. It contains almost all the poems and fragments in English and Greek -- the Greek is nice to see there even if you can't read it. This edition is out of print but available at some libraries and through internet used book sellers. It also includes, in English, the relevant testimonia (passages from ancient authors commenting on Sappho.) The other fundamental resource is Sir Denys Page's Sappho and Alcaeus (Oxford UP) which is written for scholars but much of which can be useful to read even if the Greek is just little squiggles to you. (Many of the most interesting parts don't include that much quoted Greek, and it wouldn't be much of a chore for someone who knows Greek to explain them to you.) This book includes strictly literal translations of the most important poems and an introduction and notes which constitute the best statement of what can be known, rather than fantasized, about Sappho's life and work. -------------------------------------------------- I want to speak up in defense of Suckling and Lovelace. At least one person still reads them with pleasure and admiration. I wonder how many of the versifiers appearing in today's journals will have even that much of an audience several hundred years from now. -------------------------------------------------- My thanks to Anny Ballardini for her remarks my poem "The House" and for noticing that sometimes people actually post poems here. -------------------------------------------------- Quote of the week It's not right that there should be lamentation in a house which is dedicated to the Muses. That would be wrong for us. -- Sappho (traditionally considered her dying words, to her daughter) ================================================== Jon Corelis [log in to unmask] http://www.geocities.com/joncpoetics ================================================== _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus