So you both have fund a way beyond the pastoral, Ken & Hal, the former through horror, the latter through a wry irony that still cuts close to the bone. And perhaps the point is that such a thing as 'pastoral' (& accompanying moods) is now impossible in the First World, let alone the 3rd (& the 2nd, wherever it may be).... Doug Douglas Barbour Department of English University of Alberta Edmonton Alberta Canada T6G 2E5 (h) [780] 436 3320 (b) [780] 492 0521 http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/dbhome.htm There is no real world, my friends. Why not, then let the stars shine in our bones? Robert Kroetsch