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Dear colleagues, I'm interested in this idea of different actions if the student admits or doesn't admit the offence. It worries me a bit as it could be seen as undue pressure, possibly even coercion. Could it be that a student is tempted to admit even if he/she didn’t do anything in order to be treated more leniently? Or might he/she invoke the human rights laws about being treated fairly? I also note that Fiona's original question for this discussion thread was "How many minor offences need to be committed before it becomes major?" or words to that effect. I would prefer using other criteria to judge the cross-over point and that's what we do here at Brookes. We've identified four criteria to be applied to allocating a tariff: The most significant distinguisher here at Brookes between minor and major offences is extent - how much is it? - followed by level [is it the student's first year? Third? M level? Etc] and then some kind of judgement as to how likely it is that the student understands academic conventions. Because the last point matters a lot and seeks to get to students' intentions, we now have the rule that all reminders, offences and conversations with students must be recorded because one important way to judge how likely it is that the student understands academic conventions is a note of a previous conversation on the matter. So we ask that all cases are recorded. Jude Carroll Staff Developer and Course Leader Oxford Centre for Staff and Learning Development, Oxford Brookes University, Gipsy Lane, Oxford OX3 0BP UK 01865 485827; fax 01865 485937 -----Original Message----- From: Plagiarism [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of L. Payne Sent: 17 March 2003 16:03 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Recording offences My School has a policy similar to John Mottley's. If the first offence is relatively minor it is dealt with by the teaching staff themselves. If the students admit guilt this would typically this'd involve a zero marks for that assignment for all students involved. Such offences are lodged on a database. If the students dont admit guilt, or it is a more serious first offence, it is escalated to the Dean, A second offence is automatically escalated to the Dean. The Dean will deal with less serious offences but others are passed on to University investigatory processes. Lisa Payne Coventry University On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, John Mottley wrote: > Hi, > > My institution (at least my School) tends to treat an obvious first offence > by giving zero marks to all parties involved if they admit it (otherwise it > is taken to committee)and it is recorded. A second and subsequent suspected > offences are treated more seriously and are sent directly to committee. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fiona Duggan [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: 17 March 2003 14:58 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Recording offences > > > Dear Listmembers, > > A lunchtime discussion today centred on consideration of policies relating to > plagiarism, specifically the recording of offences. Questions that were > raised included the following: > > Do institutions record offences that are considered to be minor, and if they > do, is there any guidelines as to the number of minor offences that would be > needed to constitute a major offence? Are minor offences taken into > consideration when later offences are being considered? > > Needless to say no definitive answers were produced, but it would be > interesting to hear how other institutions deal with these issues. > > Regards > > Fiona Duggan > > Plagiarism Advisory Service Manager > Information Management Research Institute > Room 122 Lipman Building > Northumbria University > Newcastle upon Tyne > NE1 8ST > > e-mail: [log in to unmask] > Tel: 0191 243 7410 > > > > > > > The Plagiarism Advisory Service offers general guidance only on issues > relevant to plagiarism prevention and detection. Such guidance does not > constitute definitive or legal advice and should not be regarded as a > substitute therefor. In particular guidance given by the Service will not > take account of provisions of any relevant assessment or other governing > regulations. The Service will not give advice on the interpretation of any > regulations and all guidance is given subject to the relevant regulations. > The Plagiarism Advisory Service does not accept any liability for any loss > suffered by persons who consult the Service whether or not such loss is > suffered directly or indirectly as a result of reliance placed on guidance > given by the Service. > > ************************************************************************ * > You are subscribed to the JISC Plagiarism mailing list. To Unsubscribe, > change your subscription options, or access list archives, visit > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/PLAGIARISM.html > ************************************************************************ * > ************************************************************************ * > You are subscribed to the JISC Plagiarism mailing list. 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