Why not do both? i.e. petition as a 'concerned citizen' and also write to DfES?

 



 

>From: Terry McAndrew <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Plagiarism <[log in to unmask]>,              Terry McAndrew <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Do we have a collective responsibility?
>Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:23:23 -0000
>
>Hi,
>
>I do not think *we* should be petitioning our local MPs to change the law to
>get these sites closed down.
>
>This approach is fragmented and not likely to get co-coordinated response.
>What we need is to identify the owner of the problem. Teaching staff suffer
>the consequences of the problem but do not *own* it. This rests with the
>appropriate government department, the DfES
>
>I suspect that many students come with a habit of plagiarism that is not
>picked up early enough, and therefore the problem is not HE's alone.
>
>I would think it better to write to Either Charles Clarke or Alan Johnson
>directly
>http://www.dfes.gov.uk/insidedfes/index.shtml
>
>Regards,
>
>Terry McAndrew MSc BA PGCLTHE
>
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>   _____
>
>         From: sally jones [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>         Sent: 22 December 2003 19:13
>         To: [log in to unmask]
>         Subject: Re: Do we have a collective responsibility?
>
>
>
>         Group work/assessment always seems unfair owing to the dynamics (or
>lack of them) of a group.
>
>
>
>         Surely - hence the title of this thread - each of us involved in
>education have a moral responsibility to try and cause the offering of
>cheating services to be declared illegal? This can be done by individuals
>petitioning their MP and also urging any professional bodies we are members
>of, to petition government. Only by the closure of such sites as I have
>mentioned can the bespoke cheating problem be reduced - not eradicated, but
>reduced.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>         >From: Jon Appleton
>
>         >Reply-To: Plagiarism ,              Jon Appleton
>         >To: [log in to unmask]
>         >Subject: Re: Do we have a collective responsibility?
>         >Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:14:50 +0000
>         >
>         >How about setting essays that relate directly to experiences
>         >that the student has had on your course, eg meta-analyses of
>         >group work, including presentations as part of the
>         >assessment, requiring sight of the interim stages of larger
>         >pieces of work, etc, etc.  There are many such suggestions
>         >out there but you could do a lot worse than to start with
>         >Jude Carroll's book which (IMHO) covers this amongst other
>         >areas related to plagiarism (see
>
> >http://www.brookes.ac.uk/services/ocsd/4_resource/books/plagiarism.html).
>         >
>         >Simply setting an essay testing a student's factual
>         >knowledge of the field is always going to be vulnerable to
>         >it being done by someone other than the student who
>         >submitted it (and arguably is not a particularly valuable
>         >test of the skills that we should be inculcating in students
>         >on an academic course - but that is a whole new discussion
>         >:-)
>         >
>         >Jon Appleton
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >Jon Appleton
>         >
>
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