If I may be so bold, myself and a scant few others hold the belief that Kubrick is the 'most experimental' mainstream artist (for the Us, to be sure).  If you do indeed accept that, there's obviously some other places to go with it as well.

>From: Ali Vatansever <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Film-Philosophy Salon <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: atomic bomb / experimental film / apocalyptic visions
>Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 02:47:01 -0800
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>Experimental filmmakers are mostly self-oriented, like the genre in itself.
>Stan Vanderbeek has some works with political content. Especially his anti-war film "Breathdeath", which he dedicated to Charlie Chaplin and Buster Keaton can match your topic. You can buy Stan Vanderbeek's "Visibles" (contains Breathdeath) at http://www.re-voir.com.
>
>If you count German Caligarist films as experimental (as I did), most of post-war (and also pre-war) German films are about post(pre)-war anxiety. Especially try to watch:
>"Das Kabinett des Dr. Caligari"
>"Golem"
>"Berlin-Symphonie of a Great City" (pre-war Berlin's documentary)
>
>if we name experimental films as avant-gardist approaches, Rosselini's "Rome Open City" can also be count as an experimental film because of its camera usage.
>
>
> Ali Vatansever
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>--- Matthew Hodgins <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
> >atomic bomb, apocalyptic visions, post-war anxiety, the end of History,
> >experimental film
> >
> >these expressions circumscribe the topos of a paper that i'm trying to write
> >for a course in experimental film. this project has been sitting on the
> >corner of my desk for several months and it's high time to get working on
> >it, but i'd like to save myself the trouble of renting stacks of tapes in
> >search of mushroom clouds. can anyone name some experimental films that
> >might be interesting within the above-mentioned context? recommended
> >readings would also be appreciated. ultimately, it would be nice to develop
> >a thesis linking essential aspects of the genre itself to the same
> >widespread social anxieties. i mean, is it just me? does not the image of
> >the mushroom cloud seem particularly well-suited to the experimental genre?
> >why is this?
> >
> >thanks in advance,
> >
> >matthew hodgins
> >montréal, québec
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