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Regarding the "Matrix controversy" (i.e. the question whether it is too slick or too intellectually sophomoric to be worth discussing for its philosophical content): I don't know that comparing movies as "more" and "less" philosophical (the Matrix vs. Memento) on a scale of 1 to 10 is a terribly interesting endeavour. Better to consider about a particular film what philosophical issues it raises and with what subtlety or sophistication it raises them. That question can't be answered either by an opinion poll of philosophers or box office figures from the masses. Popular films can be incredibly subtle and sophisticated in thought content, and esoteric art films can be silly and pretentious. In any case, with respect to the Matrix, a number of philosophers have already made some effort to do more than "feel around blindly" for provocative material. Those who are still interested in this line of discussion might consider going to the film's website (I think it is "www.whatisthematrix.com") to check out a growing list of fairly interesting articles on the film, mostly by philosophers, and several of them fairly well-known philosophers. Nate -- Nathan Andersen Assistant Professor of Philosophy Collegium of Letters Eckerd College 4200 54th Ave. S. Phone: (727) 864-7551 St. Petersburg, FL 33712 Fax: (727) 864-8354 U.S.A. E-mail: [log in to unmask]