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Dear Robert, Thank you for your very honest, much needed and insightful posting. You remind me of Travis Bickle (Taxi Driver) when he goes to see porn flicks. Ultimately doing so doesn't help him, but he tries. Thanks again and keep it up. Rutger --- robert andrew <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > okay, folks, beware > i am an ignorant layman > a mailman as a matter of fact > so although i cannot speak from an educated or > enlightened viewpoint....philosophically, > cienmatically....perhaps my thoughrts may have value > as joe the six pack movie goer goes. > > kb was a revelation for me. > > why? > > i was in nam. > two years. > i stay ready to kill. > honestly. > at some low level > deeply held > there is tremendous unslaked rage. > still. > after thirty five years. > i worry sometimes. > will i lose it? > i have > in the past > and hurt others > not terribly violently > but its always there > at the elbow > over the shoulder > just sitting there > the omiscience of god > through a trigger > a blade > a karate chop. > soooo.... > i work hard to stay unrepressed. > how? many devices. > but in this argument of the value of kb > please know > at least for one pop corn eating natural born killer > the film was cathartic > in the first degree > i went direclty from the moive > out into the grass > and did violent karate > by myself > at midnight > under the moon. > > and there i saw it. > > everyone is trying to repress death > to hide its facticity > and deny the thread barness of their own personal > demise. > this permanent focal unawareness > i cannot allow > to continue to cotaminate > my dep unconscious mind > i must free it > and i do > by seeing violent films. > sorry. > > kb helped me not kill anybody > more accurately, it helped me get in more direct > contact with my tons of stored anger and repressed > rage > and safely access my dark side > in a relative healthy way. > this may be all bull crap > but by simply seeing a movie > for six bucks, > i save beating up my girlfriend. > not that i do that regualry. > but the urge is there, i promise you. > > i hope this juvenlile layman's point of view will > help provide some pedestrian insight into the > workings of next door criminal mind in waiting and > how these violent films pop the pressure rather than > build it. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike Frank > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 10:47 AM > Subject: Re: thinking the unthinkable [was KILL > BILL] > > > > dan, citing wood, writes: > > >> horror films can be politically subversive and > challenge the status quo, > >> in part by highlighting the surplus repression > > dear dan [we're getting very formal around here it > seems--but that's nice] > > that's what robin wood says . . . and perhaps for > critics as reflective, > both about films and about their own "souls" as he > clearly is, that's > somewhat true . . . but my point is that for most > viewers these films > may express or act out [or, being aristotelian for > a moment] purge > through catharsis this surplus repression [itself > a loaded term/concept], > but it does NOT highlight it, that is, it does not > bring it to consciousness > -- which is exactly why martha's notion about > THINKING the unthinkable > [as opposed to, say, residing temporarily in it] > seems to me very problematic > > mike __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com