Hello I am working with raw data that has following stats: Variable | Obs Mean Std. Dev. Min Max -------------+-------------------------------------------------------- legmar | 83 18699.28 29427.66 145 181855 per9196 | 83 2609.518 9141.757 0 69000 lonefem | 83 1386.687 2436.079 20 16715 When I use these variables as covarites in univariate models and try to find the beta parameter associated with each in the model the Trap message "Undefined real result" comes up. I have tried what I could from the suggestion in the manual to correct this error, but to no avail. The model runs when the code does not include the beta value but just the covarite by itself. My code is below for further consideration. I think the parameterisation and prior distribution are the main concern here. Is there another distribution for the prior which would work better for the beta values of variables with such large variances? Recently few e-mails were about the missing data problem. I noticed that the Rats example has missing data as observations and not for covariates. Would using 'NA' for missing data in covarite vectors also work in WINBUGS? Thanks Ayaz model; { #poisson regression model for (i in 1:N) { gag1_inj[i] ~ dpois(lambda[i]) #Model rate as a linear function of covariates log(lambda[i])<- log(gag1_pop[i])+E[i]+beta[1]*(x[i]-mean(x []))+S[i]+alpha #Rate per 1,000 persons. R[i]<-(lambda[i]/gag1_pop[i])*1000; E[i]~dnorm(0,tau.E) } S[1:N] ~ car.normal(adj[],weights[],num[],tau.S) for(k in 1:sumNumNeigh){ weights[k]<- 1 } beta[1]~dnorm(0,1.0E-6) alpha~dflat() tau.E~dgamma(0.0001,0.0001) var.E<-1/tau.E tau.S~dgamma(0.0001,0.0001) var.S<-1/tau.S } #Sorry but the data for spatial terms in data file below can't be provided due to liscencing issues. list(N=83,sumNumNeigh=370, gag1_pop=c(20857, 31224, 9041, 9848, 13933, 3810, 28129, 15244, 5545, 24989, 9081, 4279, 15606, 38421, 4468, 5273, 10221, 11390, 31887, 11397, 62950, 144817, 114602, 18196, 7140, 38953, 36020, 6931, 9353, 15844, 10410, 83150, 136190, 134943, 393605, 120576, 157757, 852802, 38597, 164424, 94422, 207350, 131805, 41641, 28660, 22941, 30835, 5030, 7635, 1434, 28498, 9499, 26585, 11590, 26766, 142078, 42791, 42952, 177254, 65893, 55909, 12105, 60744, 7845, 17636, 98859, 32394, 41568, 65535, 49914, 48539, 8384, 11290, 8343, 18903, 9707, 2949, 5554, 23305, 2198, 33725, 3356, 1016), gag1_inj=c(227, 266, 93, 100, 165, 49, 219, 155, 82, 217, 93, 31, 193, 327, 37, 50, 77, 73, 306, 96, 454, 778, 777, 167, 53, 407, 313, 112, 104, 156, 129, 643, 900, 847, 1954, 598, 595, 1870, 213, 683, 653, 1022, 712, 243, 227, 156, 322, 72, 49, 16, 264, 106, 320, 132, 351, 1197, 415, 371, 1312, 496, 457, 110, 465, 51, 186, 672, 187, 408, 515, 447, 453, 89, 81, 118, 176, 127, 55, 52, 326, 10, 305, 30, 9), x=c(6695, 10390, 3950, 3705, 5845, 1495, 9565, 5885, 2130, 9200, 4015, 1560, 9045, 17175, 2125, 2270, 2965, 3635, 14160, 4255, 24100, 61075, 40415, 6800, 2035, 10610, 10305, 1460, 2835, 4335, 3325, 28660, 47795, 46185, 141640, 44810, 67730, 181855,17280, 72410, 29980, 73770, 52315, 22685, 11020, 8635, 8910, 1090, 1940, 405, 6480, 1670, 6870, 2975, 6645, 38700, 11120, 10785, 74230, 22185, 29480, 6120, 21965, 2560, 7165, 35590, 18250, 12895, 24060, 16035, 14205, 2585, 5585, 3075, 5255, 2030, 535, 1460, 5460, 375, 8410, 665, 145)) list(tau.E=1,tau.S=1, alpha=0,beta=c(0), S=c(0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0), E=c(0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0)) ------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is for discussion of modelling issues and the BUGS software. For help with crashes and error messages, first mail [log in to unmask] To mail the BUGS list, mail to [log in to unmask] Before mailing, please check the archive at www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/bugs.html Please do not mail attachments to the list. To leave the BUGS list, send LEAVE BUGS to [log in to unmask] If this fails, mail [log in to unmask], NOT the whole list