Dear BUGS users, A commonly used "non informative prior" for a normal variance is tau ~ dgamma(0.001,0.001) I believe the reason is that a gamma pdf approximates an inverse distribution when parameters are taken very small. The problem : I have a model with such a prior tau ~ dgamma(0.001,0.001) ; var <- 1/tau ; on the precision, which is running without any problem under WinBUGS13. But this model doesn't run under the updated version WinBUGS14 (trap message : "unable to bracket slice for node tau"). My questions : 1) Does the updated 1.4 version use other sampling methods as 1.3 ?. 2) The model is running under 1.4 with the following code : var ~ dgamma(0.001,0.001) ; tau ~ 1/var ; To my mind, assigning a prior pdf =1/V on the Variance V is the same than assigning a prior pdf =1/Tau on the precision Tau. Thus, is this second solution wrong ?. 3) Is it better to use something like log.tau ~ dunif(-10,10) ; tau <- exp(log.tau) ? Thanks for your help ! Best, Etienne Etienne RIVOT ********************************************************************* Etudiant en these / Ph.D. Student UMR Ecobiologie et Qualite des Hydrosystemes continentaux Institut National de la Recherche Agronomique 65, rue de St Brieuc, CS 84215, 35042 Rennes cedex, FRANCE Tel : +33 2 23 48 54 49 ; Fax : +33 2 23 48 54 40 Email : [log in to unmask] Internet : http://www.rennes.inra.fr/ ********************************************************************* ------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is for discussion of modelling issues and the BUGS software. For help with crashes and error messages, first mail [log in to unmask] To mail the BUGS list, mail to [log in to unmask] Before mailing, please check the archive at www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/bugs.html Please do not mail attachments to the list. To leave the BUGS list, send LEAVE BUGS to [log in to unmask] If this fails, mail [log in to unmask], NOT the whole list