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On Sat, 24 May 2003 01:50:49 -0600, Rebecca Seiferle <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>like making shoes and everyone knowing what a good shoe is or >isn't. > >Best, > >Rebecca > > You offer me a good example to oppose Rebecca: first, for me, much better a 'good pair of artisan shoes' than a 'bad poem'. I am skilled enough to judge the quality of both cathegories, the functional and the artistic, without feeling subjugated by any of the two. second, what happens when shoes are an item of creation? as in the following example that I am surprised did not cross your mind, when you debased shoes and shomakers in front of the much appreciable poet and his poem : http://www.msu.org/shoes.htm I wonder what you think of these shoes. And of these others: http://www.joanm.com/dance/1997shlg.html ? thank you for submitting this example of your desparagement of shoes and shoemakers, then. erminia