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a bit of an off-subject ramble: >But this list misses swathes of the community of people involved in >communication. There are not many university PR types. I think that maybe because there are not many university PR types! It seems amazing to me that some of the universities that are trying to promote themselves the most seem to have the smallest and most ineffectual PR departments, especially among the science departments! I appreciate that money is always an issue, but very few departments seem to have any idea of the adage, spend money to make money! Those who have good PR departments/people such as Hull, seem to have money flowing in from all directions, and one can't help but think that this must be at least partly down to their PR. Tamasin Tamasin Greenough GRaham Uk Online Centres York _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ********************************************************************** 1. To suspend yourself from the list, whilst on leave, for example, send an email to [log in to unmask] with the following message: set psci-com nomail 2. To resume email from the list, send the following message: set psci-com mail 3. To leave psci-com, send an email to [log in to unmask] with the message: leave psci-com 4. Further information about the psci-com discussion list, including list archive, can be found at the list web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/psci-com.html 5. The psci-com gateway to internet resources on science communication and science and society can be found at http://psci-com.org.uk **********************************************************************