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> Date:         Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:39:24 -0000
> From: Pete Johnston <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Clarifying dumb-down (Was RE: RDF typed literals and DC encoding
>          schemes)
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> Picking up Roland's point here....
>
> > Without a given literal to value map the datatype encoding
> > style produces a serious problem to dc-dumbdown.
> >
> > A dc:subject content 061(40) in my view is not to be
> > recommended as a dumbdown from dc:subject scheme="UDC"
> > content="061(40)".
> >
> > This is NOT a syntax issue, as you seem to imply.
> >
> > The xml guideline suffers from the same problem.
>
> I think I understand the point Roland is making here (which I agree is
> syntax independent): in
>
> > dc:subject content 061(40)
>
> the literal string "061(40)" is the value of the attribute.
>
> In
>
> > dc:subject scheme="UDC" content="061(40)"
>
> the value of the attribute is the result of a transformation process
> performed on the literal "061(40)", where the transformation is defined
> by the scheme/datatype.
>
> This became particularly apparent in the (syntax-specific) discussion of
> the xs:anyURI datatype and escaped characters and so on
>
> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0210&L=dc-architecture&T=
> 0&F=&S=&P=7120
>
> and follow-ups (when I undertook to explore some examples which I fear I
> still haven't had time to do).
>
> But I suspect that many implementations of dumb-down in DC metadata have
> not taken this "datatype-aware" approach, and _have_ simply discarded
> the "scheme" information. This certainly seems to be the behavior
> suggested by
>
> http://dublincore.org/documents/usageguide/#dumbdown
>
> Are we saying this blunter, less sophisticated approach to dumb-down is
> incorrect?

I'm more and more getting to that the "easy" approach to dumbdown may result
in a de-valuation of dc-simple.

It makes for a lot of really unqualified records - even, when they are
syntactically "simple".

Many applications use schemes - in particular for subject (as is
recommended already with elements/1.1/ )

Exporting such records by
discarding the scheme information makes
the information useless, to say the least.

IMO "easy dumb" should only be considered as an escape in
case a "simple dumb" is not possible.
"Ignoring" should not be the same as "Discarding the de-coding information".


rs


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> Pete
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