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Indeed Jan is right this is a gray area and i think is an important debate ...

thankfully this issue will be discussed at the next SMR User Group in
Warwick. From the discussion on this issue there is evidently a question
that we all need some clarification upon.

I think guidance is desperately needed on this issue.
Jason A. Siddall
NTSMR Officer

>>> "WILLS, Jan" <[log in to unmask]> 13/June/2002 03:42pm >>>
But life is a grey area

Jan Wills

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   David Evans
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                Sent:   13 June 2002 16:39
                To:     [log in to unmask]
                Subject:        Re: site protection vs. access to
information

                The truth hurts.

                Thank you
                David Evans
                Environment and Conservation

                >>> [log in to unmask] 13/06/2002 16:02:54 >>>
                That's a bit harsh David!
                ;-(

                Bob

                -----Original Message-----
                From: David Evans
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                Sent: 13 June 2002 14:41
                To: [log in to unmask]
                Subject: Re: site protection vs. access to information


                Most SMRs are local Government
                Local Government covered by access to information
legislation.
                End of debate.

                Thank you
                David Evans
                Environment and Conservation

                >>> [log in to unmask] 13/06/2002 14:10:27 >>>
                As this topic is causing some concern perhaps there ought to
be an agreed
                ALGAO position (ideally with EH backing) which would help
individual SMRs
                defend their position?  Something for the ALGAO SMR
Committee?

                Sandy Kidd
                Senior Archaeological Officer (Bucks CC)
                Tel:01296-382927

                > -----Original Message-----
                > From: John Wood [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
                > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:39
                > To:   [log in to unmask]
                > Subject:      Re: site protection vs. access to
information
                >
                > I have followed this discussion with a slight sense of
disbelief.  This
                was
                > very topical 10 or more years ago but the world has simply
moved on - or I
                > thought it had!
                >
                > This genie was out of the bottle long ago.  People who
want to find
                > archaeological sites and monuments have no difficulty
doing so.  Many of
                > them have been marked on OS maps for many years. Or they
can get the
                > information easily from the NMRs or SMRs.  With the modern
requirements
                for
                > freedom of information, I don't think that we could
justify withholding
                > information. The NMRS is about to back its online records,
which offer
                full
                > information, with online mapping.  I hope we will follow
suit in due
                course.
                >
                >
                > In Humberside, in the early 1980s, I remember there was
the full listing
                of
                > sites published by Loughlin and Miller.  I also remember
metal
                detectorists
                > telling me that they believed the grid references had been
deliberately
                > messed up to confuse them!  This was not actually the
case.
                >
                > No, the only answer is public education and raised
awareness of they
                should
                > not damage sites, and why sites are of value to everyone,
not just
                > archaeologists.
                >
                > John Wood
                >
                >
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