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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Cecilia Gaposchkin <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Robert Kraft wrote: >> Are you aware of seven cathedrals that were designated as pilgrimage sites during the times of the crusades when pilgrims were not able to make a pilgrimage to Jerusalem? I believe Chartes was one. Do you know of this, and if so do you know which were the other cathedrals? Thanks. >I would be very interested if responses to this question could be posted to the list, i've got an interest in this question also. and, a question: "Designated" by *whom,* eggsactly? --during "the period of the Crusades" (i.e., 1090-2002???) such a "designation" (by the Pope, presumably) in any general sense, strikes me as something that would/could not happen before, say the mid-13th c. but i could easily be wrong. otOh, there could certainly be some kind of ad hoc dispensation given on a case-by-case basis by local bishops, i should think. in any case, i've not heard of Chartres being so "officially" "designated," though that certainly doesn't mean that it wasn't. my dim understanding is that, on occasion, Papa could commute (if that's the word i'm looking for) a would-be Crusader's vow to something else. the only instance i know of where this (supposedly) happened is the case of Archdeacon Godfrey of Leves (a _castrum_ very near Chartres), who, legend had it, was on his way Outre Mer and stopped at Rome when word reached him that he had been "elected" to suceed Bishop Ivo. the story goes that Papa relieved him of his vow so that he could assume the See of Chartres, in return for which he was to found a monastery on his ancestral lands. this he did, returning to Chartres and, just a year later perhaps, founding the benedictine house of "St. Mary of Josaphat" --presumably named after the monastery of the same name in the valley below Jerusalem (http://www.ariadne.org/centrechartraine/abbeys/josaphat/jehosaphat.html http://www.ariadne.org/centrechartraine/abbeys/josaphat/josaphat.html http://dogbert.abebooks.com/abe/BookDetails?bi=63381660 ). (nota bennies: i've not been able to confirm this legend in any contemporary source --it apparently first appears in early modern histories of the abbey. which is not to say that it is without foundation, however.) >particularly the relevant bibliography. (I am preparing a new course on medieval pilgrimage; has anyone taught such a course?) here's a couple of recent items to start you off: Elsner, John; Coleman, Simon. _Pilgrimage: Past & Present in the World Religions._ Harvard University Press, 1995 http://dogbert.abebooks.com/abe/BookDetails?bi=97365646 (multiple copies available) Webb, Diana. _Pilgrims and Pilgrimage in the Medieval West._ I. B. Tauris & Company, Limited, 1999. the Webb looks to me to be particularly good and based on original sources, with an up-to-date bibliography. See the description here: http://dogbert.abebooks.com/abe/BookDetails?bi=106516842 finally, i modestly call the list's attention to a Bang-Up session at the upcomming Zoo: -------------------------- Session 101: Schneider 1120 Chartres: New Approaches to Old Problems Sponsor: The Friends of Chartres at Kalamazoo Organizer: Christopher Crockett, Christopher's Book Room Presider: Margot Fassler, Yale Univ. Chartres Cathedral as "The House of the Virgin" Jim Bugslag, Univ. of Manitoba Iconographical Implications of the Virgin at Chartres: The Evidence of the Pilgrim Badges Pippin Michelli, Ariadne.org Families and Canons: The Uses of Prosopography Christopher Crockett Christopher's Book Room -------------------------------- i have it on good Authority that: --the first paper will be a summary of a Superb and Important Historiographic study; --the second, an equally Stunning and Historiographically Important look at all the known pilgrims' badges from the cathedral --the first time, to my knowledge, that they have ever been so assembled; --the third, hopelessly Dreary paper, thankfully, will be replaced by a Facinating and Erudite *Mystery Speaker* who may give us some insights into her forthcomming New Book on Chartres. i'll be in the chair. hope to see you all there. best from here, christopher Books on Religion & Theology: http://dogbert.abebooks.com/abe/BooksBrowse?page=LOW&lowcatid=10695674 Books on Other Subjects: http://dogbert.abebooks.com/abe/BooksBrowse?vendorclientid=807329&page=CLIENT ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html