medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Dear Listmembers There seems to be some confusion about the concept "Relics". There are "symbolic" relics - in the inventories are they described as "DE sancto ..." (FROM de saint, i.e. a small microscopic thing of indeterminable origin and substance, mostly sealed in a small glass tube). Then are there "real" relics, so large that they take a separate shrine to contain them, like bodies and large parts of bodies (skeletons). For obvious reasons is the authenticity of everything older than the 7th century dubious. What counts to a medievalist is what the people believed it was. Influential people with plenty of money could easily return from Palestine with a relic. Like king Louis who brought the crown of thorns to Paris. If anybody had a doubt about its origin did they not publish it in writing. It WAS the Corona Domini! In principle and in practise was the pope capable of deliveries of relics of any kind, on request. The Lateran had obviously a kind of shop where relics were taken from the shelves in a store on demand. Many churches received ready-made packages containing all the relics it would take to make up a full calendar according to the Gregorian Sacramentary. Relics of local saints were provided by the bishop when needed. When the church in Lund was raised to be the new archdiocese of Denmark in the beginning of the 12th century, did they receive such a complete set of relics from the pope in Rome. The list has survived and is of course published. I do not have a copy at hand, but I remember that it immediately struck me that it in fact is a complete liturgical calendar (and the corresponding litany), if arranged according to the ecclesiastical year, including "Apostolic remains". Many other churches in the missionary field north of the Rhine did probably also receive a similar starting-kit, but it is rare to have the original list preserved in the archives. The list of relics contained in the famous shrine of St.Ursula (by Hans Memling) in the Hospital of St.John in Bruges, is included in a document made in connection with the official translation into the new shrine in 1489. The list is very curious, and tells us a lot about the phenomenon "Relics", as it was seen in the later M.A.: "...sacrosancte reliquie inferius sigillatim et particulariter designate et descripte, nuper ex quadam vetusta capsa, sive feretro, in qua diu ab antea reverenter recondite, honorifice recluse, et collocate extiterant, et in hoc presenti novo feretro, sive nova capsa, Undecim Mille Virginum attitulato per eundem dominum [Egidium] episcopum Sarreptanum oleo sancto more solito, consecrato, benedicto, et confirmato, ac reliquiis infrascriptis preparato ...etc." (The bishop of Tournai could not be present, because he was in Rome). The complete list of the contents of the shrine: _____________________________________________ Ossa plurima XI M. Virginum. Reliquie Sancti Georgii. De monte Calvarie. De porta aurea. De sepulchro Domini. Reliquie Sancti Iohannis Baptiste. De monte in quo Christus ieiunavit 40 diebus et 40 noctibus. De monte Synay. De lacte Beate Marie Virginis. (sic!) Reliquie Sancti Iacobi apostoli. Reliquie Sancte Agnetis. De monte Thabor. Reliquie Sancti Lupi. De columpna ubi Christus fuit flagellatus in domo Pilati. De terra de qua Adam factus fuit. De loco in quo Christus confecit Sacramentum. De capillis Beate Marie Virginis. Reliquie Sancti Ieronimi. De ossibus Sancti Brixii. De ossibus Sanctorum Cosme et Damiani. Reliquie Sancti Mauri. De costa Sancti Dyonisii. De sancto Fiacro. De crinibus Virginis Gloriose. De presepe Domini. Reliquie Sancte Barbare. De sepulchro sancti Lazari. Una spina Corone Spinee Domini nostri. De monte Oliveti. De loco ubi Christus ter oravit Patrem. De loco ubi obitus Beate Marie Virginis nunciatus fuit. De loco Nativitatis Domini. De loco ubi Apostoli dormierunt. De loco in quo Spiritus Sanctus super Apostolos descendit. De cenaculo ubi Christus confecit Sacramentum. De sepulchro Sancti Ieronimi. De loco ubi Abraham Tres vidit et Unum adoravit. De loco ubi Christus fuit captus. De loco ubi Moyses recepit legem de manu Domini. De sepulchro Beate Marie Virginis. De uno lapide cum quo Beatus Stephanus fuit lapidatus. De monte Syon. De ossibus Sancte Helene. De ossibus Sancte Lucie. _____________________________________________ The document (Acta) is signed by Rumoldus de Doppere, secretary to the bishop of Tournai. (From the complete publication by W.H.James Weale in: Hans Memlinc, zijn Leven en zijne Schilderwerken, Brugge 1871, p.65-70). The document will hopefully give some members of this list some realistic insight, and a more relaxed relation to the concept "reliquium". Best wishes Erik Drigsdahl _____________________________________________________________________ Mag.art. 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