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Good morning Maria and Greg, To muddy the waters, there are large groups of people who are not disabled by any of the models you like to refer to, but who have been drafted as fellow travelers. My own involvement is a case in point. I am the father of a young lady who has been intellectually disabled from birth. Given a choice I could have been passionate about any one of a number of things: clean air, conservation, sustainability, politics or tiddly-winks. I did not have that choice. Instead our role as carers - because of our daughters high support needs, has been very intense over many years, and my spare energy has gone into advocating for people with disabilities and their families in an environment of indifference and decades long neglect. The point I wish to make here is that solutions involve and affect much larger community groups than people with disabilities only. I also wish to make the point that idle speculation about magic pills are mere castles in the sky: by all means, build them and ejoy doing it, but do not try moving in. I sympathise with the impatient among us, I am one of them, but change is not a paint on job (or pill), it is a marinating, pickling process, and hence takes time. Enjoy the small victories, don't be discouraged by the set backs, but accept that this is a generational thing, rather than short or medium term. Have a good time, rgds John ----- Original Message ----- From: Gregor Wolbring <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:45 AM Subject: Re: request for cite (fwd) > On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Maria Barile wrote: > > > > > Hi Greg > > It all depends on your interpretation of the meaning of disability. > > Indeed that what my mail said!. And pill question only makes sense a) to > ask the target who is seen as the defect. in the social model of > disability the defect is with society so the only way to fix disability > would be to give the pill to society. > If the individual non normative person is asked to take the pill that > implies the person has a defect and that is the medical model of disabilty > > > > > > As a researcher, I don't think that there are wrong questions. > > Sorry in that context what she wants to achieve with that question that > the wrong one to ask and to use. Has nothing to do whether the question > pill is right or wrong per se > > ________________End of message______________________ > > Archives and tools for the Disability-Research Discussion List > are now located at: > > www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/disability-research.html > > You can JOIN or LEAVE the list from this web page. > ________________End of message______________________ Archives and tools for the Disability-Research Discussion List are now located at: www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/disability-research.html You can JOIN or LEAVE the list from this web page.