The latest Association of British Drivers mailing (recommended for entertainment value if nothing else - email [log in to unmask] to join) makes the following claim: "As so many senior government officials making transport decisions don't even hold driving licences, it is good to see the appointment at last of a minister with a licence - although we appreciate this must be increasingly difficult with so many licences being lost to speed cameras." Anyone know if this has any truth at all to it (the first bit, not the second)? Paul -- Dr Paul Rosen Science & Technology Studies Unit Department of Sociology University of York Heslington York YO10 5DD Tel. & fax: 01904 - 434743 Web: http://www.york.ac.uk/org/satsu/ http://www.scipol.demon.co.uk/spp.htm